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Old 10-25-2018, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Flahrida
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What about the Statler, too? Other than the first floor, isn't that building empty too?
Yes the event centers are operational but the building needs 150-200,000,000 to renovate:

https://www.buffalorising.com/2016/0...rd-and-upward/

You have to give Mark Croce credit for at least trying to do something in Buffalo
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Old 10-26-2018, 06:49 AM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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Before the concern for more coffee houses and Tchotchke stores let the city secure a significant employer that will attract the people who want to live downtown and create the demand for these businesses. The family suburban dwellers are not looking to relocate.
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Old 10-26-2018, 07:47 AM
 
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Before the concern for more coffee houses and Tchotchke stores let the city secure a significant employer that will attract the people who want to live downtown and create the demand for these businesses. The family suburban dwellers are not looking to relocate.
It is likely empty nesters or the young/single professionals that are around that would consider downtown housing. For an example, occupancy in for housing in Downtown Syracuse is essentially full due to those groups. So, it appears that the demand is there in Buffalo as well.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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It is likely empty nesters or the young/single professionals that are around that would consider downtown housing. For an example, occupancy in for housing in Downtown Syracuse is essentially full due to those groups. So, it appears that the demand is there in Buffalo as well.
I don't think that is correct. The weather is so bad downtown with the wind and the cold. My father moved there from the burbs and it was awful. There is nothing downtown after 6PM, its like a ghost town. Safety is a big issue as well. Why would an empty nester want to move from the safe suburbs where there is lots of shopping to desolate downtown? I don't know about Syracuse but downtown Buffalo is deadsville. Come visit sometime.
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Old 10-26-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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^ I know that Downtown isn't as active in Buffalo in comparison, but it is still within close proximity to more active districts and has the potential to improve in that regard.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Flahrida
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^ I know that Downtown isn't as active in Buffalo in comparison, but it is still within close proximity to more active districts and has the potential to improve in that regard.
I disagree. You don't live in Buffalo and have not witnessed how dead and dangerous downtown is. Who cares about proximity to active areas why not just live in one of those. As far as the potential to improve that will most likely never happen. Downtown will never be safe and the weather will not miraculously change. The new medical corridor will attract some folks but the downtown core will always be what it is DEAD. I lived there for 62 years and watched it die. They are repurposing lots of old buildings which is nice but its still for young people that can tolerate the brutal winters. The city of Buffalo was never know for its speedy snow removal. It always lags behind the burbs. The sidewalks are a broken hip waiting to happen. I had friends on Richmond Ave and the parking was non existent and I got a ticket for parking next to a buried fire hydrant.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:27 PM
 
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^This is just opinion though. I'm sure others have said the same things about other neighborhoods in cities that have been revitalized as well.
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Old 10-27-2018, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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^This is just opinion though. I'm sure others have said the same things about other neighborhoods in cities that have been revitalized as well.
An opinion from someone that actually lived there.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:33 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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An opinion from someone that actually lived there.
I guess the question is if there's actually been a noticeable turnaround in the area since you've left. When did you leave downtown Buffalo?

I think having sold surrounding neighborhoods is good--it means that new development in downtown has a potential audience and the parts where downtown is adjacent to those solid neighborhoods can have a solid base nearby both for businesses so that those people living nearby might walk to them and for residents in downtown who can at least have those neighborhoods to walk to.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:26 PM
 
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An opinion from someone that actually lived there.
You moved did you not, why do you give two hoots then. Take your act to another message board.
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