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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod
Where did you see that? Things vary within the city of Buffalo.
Actually, there are still areas within cities like Buffalo that also are standard areas of town with many services as well. Again, that is the difference and I just a list of examples within the city of Buffalo.
Boundaries have to be considered, if such lists are looking at the city as a whole. Stating the fact of Buffalo's 40 square miles doesn't have to mean it is at a disadvantage and in this case, it may be at an advantage.
I guess "there isn't anything to walk to" in these Buffalo neighborhoods...
Your bolded statement is mine in reference to Richmond's conditions however disparaging remarks about Buffalo's Sidewalks and their conditions were commented in posts 12, 15-19 and include links to city warning about negligent residents not shoveling.
Did you look at the links you posted? Most reflect closed store fronts, some bars, a hair place or 2 but not one Grocery store. What I did see is a lot of empty lots and empty buildings to use the phase that's common here it looks like a "Food Desert" this what most city shopping options look like. Look at the attached picture, that is the Supermarkets in the city from Google, seems to be a lot of walking will be needed to get ones daily bread...
Your bolded statement is mine in reference to Richmond's conditions however disparaging remarks about Buffalo's Sidewalks and their conditions were commented in posts 12, 15-19 and include links to city warning about negligent residents not shoveling.
Did you look at the links you posted? Most reflect closed store fronts, some bars, a hair place or 2 but not one Grocery store. What I did see is a lot of empty lots and empty buildings to use the phase that's common here it looks like a "Food Desert" this what most city shopping options look like.
Again, like any city, things will vary.
About 3 or 4 of those streets have a grocery store, if not 2 in the case of Hertel Avenue. There were other stores on all of them as well. So, not all of them had just a few of those things and empty store fronts, if you actually scroll through the street.
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Again, like any city, things will vary.
About 3 or 4 of those streets have a grocery store, if not 2 in the case of Hertel Avenue. There were other stores on all of them as well. So, not all of them had just a few of those things and empty store fronts, if you actually scroll through the street.
One street out of how many links? I could post a link to Cary Street here but its not a real reflection of what you would find here city wide. I did travel on your links and saw more empty building then I care to list, corner bodegas (if present) can not feed a family and for those on a modest means are the least cost efficient to shop at. The picture I posted is from Google maps, type Grocery Stores in and see how few are coming back....
Your bolded statement is mine in reference to Richmond's conditions however disparaging remarks about Buffalo's Sidewalks and their conditions were commented in posts 12, 15-19 and include links to city warning about negligent residents not shoveling.
Did you look at the links you posted? Most reflect closed store fronts, some bars, a hair place or 2 but not one Grocery store. What I did see is a lot of empty lots and empty buildings to use the phase that's common here it looks like a "Food Desert" this what most city shopping options look like. Look at the attached picture, that is the Supermarkets in the city from Google, seems to be a lot of walking will be needed to get ones daily bread...
That cuts off South Buffalo, where there is a Tops on Seneca Street and another one on South Park, which I didn't even post. There is another one on the city/West Seneca line near Kaisertown as well, along with a Sav-A-Lot. Even Jefferson, which is a business district that has seen better days, has a Tops. Same with Broadway and Save-A-Lot, as well as Aldi. There is also a Sav-A-Lot on Grant. So, there are multiple streets/areas with a grocery store.
One street out of how many links? I could post a link to Cary Street here but its not a real reflection of what you would find here city wide. I did travel on your links and saw more empty building then I care to list, corner bodegas (if present) can not feed a family and for those on a modest means are the least cost efficient to shop at. The picture I posted is from Google maps, type Grocery Stores in and see how few are coming back....
What is your point? I live in the city, so I can say that there are very few residential areas of the city that do not have access to fresh groceries within a mile or less, but yes many of those places are corner stores/delis and smaller green grocers, rather than the super-large suburban style markets (although there are several in Buffalo with plenty of parking and bus stops nearby). Many, if not most of the corner delis have full service delis, meats, vegetables, etc. Food is also available in the dollar store and drug stores.
Are there empty storefronts in Buffalo - well of course there are. And many are no longer used as retail. That doesn't make a neighborhood less walkable.
Outdated Google maps from 500 miles away doesn't do justice to being here.
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What is your point? I live in the city, so I can say that there are very few residential areas of the city that do not have access to fresh groceries within a mile or less, but yes many of those places are corner stores/delis and smaller green grocers, rather than the super-large suburban style markets (although there are several in Buffalo with plenty of parking and bus stops nearby). Many, if not most of the corner delis have full service delis, meats, vegetables, etc. Food is also available in the dollar store and drug stores.
Are there empty storefronts in Buffalo - well of course there are. And many are no longer used as retail. That doesn't make a neighborhood less walkable.
Outdated Google maps from 500 miles away doesn't do justice to being here.
Your happy that's fine but as for the "outdated Google maps" I can only comment on what the poster placed in his post. Empty store front reflect a lack of retail when a posted link shows a hair place or a phone dealer, or a pharmacy then a bar that's not a retail mix that supports living as a pedestrian. In our area Dollar Store/Drug Store food sources are not counted as a viable food source especially for those of limited means.
But again my initial statement was only that having a lot of sidewalks is a reflection that the housing stock predates the 60's when those features started to be left out.
What is your point? I live in the city, so I can say that there are very few residential areas of the city that do not have access to fresh groceries within a mile or less, but yes many of those places are corner stores/delis and smaller green grocers, rather than the super-large suburban style markets (although there are several in Buffalo with plenty of parking and bus stops nearby). Many, if not most of the corner delis have full service delis, meats, vegetables, etc. Food is also available in the dollar store and drug stores.
Are there empty storefronts in Buffalo - well of course there are. And many are no longer used as retail. That doesn't make a neighborhood less walkable.
Outdated Google maps from 500 miles away doesn't do justice to being here.
Do you consider the city to be well served by the current options besides Wegmans on Amherst? Within the city limits there is Aldi, Wegmans and a few Tops as far as markets go. Where do you shop?
Nobody has mentioned farmer’s markets yet. Let’s add those in, too.
And don’t overlook the nonprofit food cooperatives in Buffalo. Those have been a tradition in Buffalo going back half a century, and are now stronger than ever. The Houston area has zero nonprofit food cooperatives, the last time I checked.
Also remember walkability meshes with using buses, trains, and bicycles.
So we all know Buffalo’s nothing like Manhattan in terms of walkability. But Buffalo is at least like Brooklyn or Queens in terms of walkability. Compared to the debacle of non-walkability that is most new cities of the Sunbelt like Houston and Charlotte, Buffalo is pretty walkable.
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