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Old 12-08-2020, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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A friend sent me a video about Buffalo today. He’s 63. I’m 62. We have been friends since our 20s when we both lived in DC. I haven’t seen him since the 90s. Our interest in cities has been the main tie that has kept us bound by email and now Instagram for all these years.

The video was about Buffalo being the most well-designed city in the nation and the city’s renewal. He said he and his husband have visited Buffalo and both like it a lot. He said he would live there if he were younger. I asked him to elaborate on that, but he didn’t, so I didn’t press him. Maybe he meant if his mother weren’t in her 80s. She lives in Montana, where he just moved to this year after all those years in DC. I left DC in 1983 to move back to South Carolina where I was born and raised. He lived in Montana from seventh grade through high school. He knows about frigid weather and snow. My idea of frigid weather and snow is a South Carolina winter. Snow happens here about once every six years.

Where am I going with this? Charleston’s top source of newcomers is the NYC area. New York State in general is losing people. Almost without exception, when talking with New York transplants about their decision to move here, the cold and the snow are right up there with retirement and job transfers as their reason. I personally can’t bear to think about deep snow and frigid temps. I can appreciate the quality of life attributes I have heard that Buffalo has. I just think the lure of warmer weather makes not only people but corporations look south. Just my two cents.

 
Old 12-09-2020, 07:34 AM
 
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^Retirement plays into that as well.

The thing with NY is that while the state loses people due to migration, but it also gets immigrants(always has), births and some people actually still migrate in. So, the population has usually has population growth.
 
Old 12-09-2020, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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^Retirement plays into that as well.

The thing with NY is that while the state loses people due to migration, but it also gets immigrants(always has), births and some people actually still migrate in. So, the population has usually has population growth.
This can be said about any state. NY has been losing population for years:

https://nypost.com/2019/12/30/new-yo...g-rate-report/
 
Old 12-09-2020, 10:06 AM
 
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This can be said about any state. NY has been losing population for years:

https://nypost.com/2019/12/30/new-yo...g-rate-report/
Again, people have been leaving, but people have been born, immigrated or moved in at least earlier in the decade to offset the population loss. Unless the US Census is lying: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/NY
 
Old 12-09-2020, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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New data release today - Gross Domestic Product (GDP): All industry total (Thousands of dollars)

#49 Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN: --- 71,243,822 (2018); 73,833,749 (2019) - increase of 3.6%
#50 Buffalo-Cheektowaga, NY: ------------ 69,847,067 (2018); 73,754,236 (2019) - increase of 5.6%
#51 Urban Honolulu, HI: ------------------ 69,386,714 (2018); 70,808,812 (2019) - increase of 2.0%

source: https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gdp-cou...nd-other-areas

Buffalo's increase was greater than the national average of 4.1%, and ranked 74th highest growth out of 384 MSAs. It also grew at a rate faster than all but 5 of the top 50 cities.

Rochester's GDP in 2019 is 65,028,743, an increase of 4.7%.

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Old 12-10-2020, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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Again, people have been leaving, but people have been born, immigrated or moved in at least earlier in the decade to offset the population loss. Unless the US Census is lying: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/NY
NYS gained 75k people in 10 years. Florida gained 2,750k in the same period. NYS .4% increase vs 6.3% for the entire USA vs 14.2% in Florida
 
Old 12-12-2020, 07:26 AM
 
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More will be leaving another tax increase in my area. It’s a joke
 
Old 12-12-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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New data release today - Gross Domestic Product (GDP): All industry total (Thousands of dollars)

#49 Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN: --- 71,243,822 (2018); 73,833,749 (2019) - increase of 3.6%
#50 Buffalo-Cheektowaga, NY: ------------ 69,847,067 (2018); 73,754,236 (2019) - increase of 5.6%
#51 Urban Honolulu, HI: ------------------ 69,386,714 (2018); 70,808,812 (2019) - increase of 2.0%

source: https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gdp-cou...nd-other-areas

Buffalo's increase was greater than the national average of 4.1%, and ranked 74th highest growth out of 384 MSAs. It also grew at a rate faster than all but 5 of the top 50 cities.

Rochester's GDP in 2019 is 65,028,743, an increase of 4.7%.

The Buffalo (2+) Billion must have something to do with this.
 
Old 12-14-2020, 09:51 AM
 
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New data release today - Gross Domestic Product (GDP): All industry total (Thousands of dollars)

#49 Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN: --- 71,243,822 (2018); 73,833,749 (2019) - increase of 3.6%
#50 Buffalo-Cheektowaga, NY: ------------ 69,847,067 (2018); 73,754,236 (2019) - increase of 5.6%
#51 Urban Honolulu, HI: ------------------ 69,386,714 (2018); 70,808,812 (2019) - increase of 2.0%

source: https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gdp-cou...nd-other-areas

Buffalo's increase was greater than the national average of 4.1%, and ranked 74th highest growth out of 384 MSAs. It also grew at a rate faster than all but 5 of the top 50 cities.

Rochester's GDP in 2019 is 65,028,743, an increase of 4.7%.
I saw the list in another forum on C-D and in comparison, the growth was higher than quite a few bigger areas.

Some posts from that thread: https://www.city-data.com/forum/59899369-post93.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/59898214-post91.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/59881235-post61.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/59881550-post63.html (look at percentage growth to the right or this: https://www.city-data.com/forum/59880336-post59.html )
 
Old 12-14-2020, 10:36 AM
 
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New data release today - Gross Domestic Product (GDP): All industry total (Thousands of dollars)

#49 Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN: --- 71,243,822 (2018); 73,833,749 (2019) - increase of 3.6%
#50 Buffalo-Cheektowaga, NY: ------------ 69,847,067 (2018); 73,754,236 (2019) - increase of 5.6%
#51 Urban Honolulu, HI: ------------------ 69,386,714 (2018); 70,808,812 (2019) - increase of 2.0%

source: https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gdp-cou...nd-other-areas

Buffalo's increase was greater than the national average of 4.1%, and ranked 74th highest growth out of 384 MSAs. It also grew at a rate faster than all but 5 of the top 50 cities.

Rochester's GDP in 2019 is 65,028,743, an increase of 4.7%.
Very interesting to see how Buffalo has solidified its lead over Rochester; as late as the mid-2000s the Rochester MSA had a higher GDP than the Buffalo MSA. It also had a much higher per-capita GDP, but that gap has more or less closed now. This is an encouraging sign for Buffalo. Now we just need to get some population growth so that this growth isn't a temporary spurt!
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