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Old 08-23-2020, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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One day you will just admit that the taxes are outrageous rather than song and dance as you always do. No one has every said that the monthly cost of their HOA is unreasonable or they don't feel they get anything for it. But i'll stop here, nothing has changed and its the same rhetoric it always is so you have a good day..
I pay around 2300/year for my house with a current market value of about 275k - city, county, and fees.

Tell me if you think that's outrageous.
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Old 08-23-2020, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Flahrida
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I pay around 2300/year for my house with a current market value of about 275k - city, county, and fees.

Tell me if you think that's outrageous.
The taxes on that same house in the suburbs is 8k+, I think that's outrageous.
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Old 08-23-2020, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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I pay around 2300/year for my house with a current market value of about 275k - city, county, and fees.

Tell me if you think that's outrageous.
And school tax?
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Old 08-23-2020, 07:53 PM
 
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The taxes on that same house in the suburbs is 8k+, I think that's outrageous.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it depends on the suburban area/SD.

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Old 08-23-2020, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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And school tax?
That's the total for everything.
Owner occupied, market value ~275k (up from 129k in 2015)
Taxable value 169k (up from 91k in 2015)

City - 885
School - 802
County - 702
User fees - 208
Sewer fee - 160
STAR refund - (-225)

I was a little bit off when I added it up as I was going by memory - it was actually $2532 not $2300 total.

For rental properties (non-owner occupied) city+school taxes would have been about $1200 higher.

You can't say that all NY has outrageous taxes. As a homeowner, it is advantageous tax-wise to be in an owner-occupied home in the City of Buffalo compared to most of the suburbs. My market value has also more than doubled in the last 5 years, while my actual taxes owed has only increased by about 70 dollars in the same time period.
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Old 08-23-2020, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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yeah City of Buffalo property/school taxes are quite reasonable, actually.


My home in Amherst is around $265k and we pay a little over $7k a year in taxes.
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Old 08-24-2020, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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That's the total for everything.
Owner occupied, market value ~275k (up from 129k in 2015)
Taxable value 169k (up from 91k in 2015)

City - 885
School - 802
County - 702
User fees - 208
Sewer fee - 160
STAR refund - (-225)

I was a little bit off when I added it up as I was going by memory - it was actually $2532 not $2300 total.

For rental properties (non-owner occupied) city+school taxes would have been about $1200 higher.

You can't say that all NY has outrageous taxes. As a homeowner, it is advantageous tax-wise to be in an owner-occupied home in the City of Buffalo compared to most of the suburbs. My market value has also more than doubled in the last 5 years, while my actual taxes owed has only increased by about 70 dollars in the same time period.
Then your the exception not the rule in NY because your schools are being heavily subsidized by the state, they are not desirable for people who have options. Look at Amherst (as an example) and they are more than double the cost as is most local economy's across the state.

I could also pick any number of localities in my state with a lower tax burden but it will also have lesser quality schools and an old infrastructure that may or may not suit how I choose to live. Enjoy it but having lived away you already know that you will have less buying power if you choose to sell and leave again.
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Old 08-24-2020, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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yeah City of Buffalo property/school taxes are quite reasonable, actually.


My home in Amherst is around $265k and we pay a little over $7k a year in taxes.
If you have no children in school you could say that. What you get for your low taxes is low rated schools. You pay 7k in Amherst and get highly rated schools, its your choice.
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Old 08-24-2020, 08:46 AM
 
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Same as Jacksonville. You save $5K or whatever on property taxes relative to WNY suburbs, but if you want to avoid ****-tier Duval schools (source: went to Ed White for a while) you have to pay $10-20K/kid for private school and whatever your time is worth finding one that isn't a segregation academy or baptist madrassa that's just as bad an education.
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Old 08-24-2020, 09:00 AM
 
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If you have no children in school you could say that. What you get for your low taxes is low rated schools. You pay 7k in Amherst and get highly rated schools, its your choice.
Or you can send your child to schools such as Hutch Tech, City Honors, DaVinci, Arts, Health Sciences, Tapestry, Maritime, Olmsted or even programs at Emerson, Early Middle College or McKinley. The lowest grad rate out of all of those schools is 72%. So, there are options within the city that have high graduation rates and that aren't private schools.
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