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Old 07-23-2021, 09:32 AM
 
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Again, that doesn't mean that the increase is just from reforms, which still prosecutes violent offenses. There are other factors that aren't being discussed like the things I mentioned in my previous post, that have an impact on what is going on. This doesn't have anything to do with some mainstream media boogeyman, but perhaps some insight as to what are some other factors that play a part in this.

I also suggest watching this starting at around 27 minutes in: https://www.facebook.com/michael.bad...98148434824134 (I actually posted this in the Upstate African American thread a couple of weeks ago)

Again, when looking at the information, NY historically is in the teens to mid 20's in said rankings, depending upon the criteria.
Again, you question what I posted, without saying why you are right. Childish. Post facts please. Yes, the bail reform had added to the crime. They are taught that there is no repercussions to commiting a crime, and they go back on the streets and just get more bold, up and including killing someone. It's happening in my city, and to deny it will only perpetuate it. Ask Lovely Warren how well ignoring an expanding crime problem worked out for her.
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Old 07-23-2021, 09:38 AM
 
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Again, you question what I posted, without saying why you are right. Childish. Post facts please. Yes, the bail reform had added to the crime. They are taught that there is no repercussions to commiting a crime, and they go back on the streets and just get more bold, up and including killing someone. It's happening in my city, and to deny it will only perpetuate it. Ask Lovely Warren how well ignoring an expanding crime problem worked out for her.
What are talking about? I just posted some information about how bail reform actually works from a lawyer in the area. So, perhaps you should ask him: https://johnvelmore.com/

How did she ignore the crime problem? I'm asking, because I think there are other factors to consider like I've mentioned multiple times, especially since crime rates are going up in cities across the country. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ides-explained

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ce8_story.html

https://twitter.com/Crimealytics/sta...ndemic-in-2020

Wasn't crime actually going down for a good portion of the time she was mayor?: https://www.democratandchronicle.com...ears/98517896/

Again, crime in NY historically(key word) is usually lower than most other states. That is based on information given in the thread, not some opinion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

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Old 07-23-2021, 11:02 AM
 
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What are talking about? I just posted some information about how bail reform actually works from a lawyer in the area. So, perhaps you should ask him: https://johnvelmore.com/

How did she ignore the crime problem? I'm asking, because I think there are other factors to consider like I've mentioned multiple times, especially since crime rates are going up in cities across the country. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ides-explained

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ce8_story.html

https://twitter.com/Crimealytics/sta...ndemic-in-2020

Wasn't crime actually going down for a good portion of the time she was mayor?: https://www.democratandchronicle.com...ears/98517896/

Again, crime in NY historically(key word) is usually lower than most other states. That is based on information given in the thread, not some opinion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
Lovely Warren had the benefit of a strong national economy with record high minority employment and record low unemployment for minorities. Then came the riots of 2020. Ever since then, things have been out of control. I do have friends in the police and know whats going on
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Old 07-23-2021, 11:08 AM
 
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What are talking about? I just posted some information about how bail reform actually works from a lawyer in the area. So, perhaps you should ask him: https://johnvelmore.com/

How did she ignore the crime problem? I'm asking, because I think there are other factors to consider like I've mentioned multiple times, especially since crime rates are going up in cities across the country. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ides-explained

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ce8_story.html

https://twitter.com/Crimealytics/sta...ndemic-in-2020

Wasn't crime actually going down for a good portion of the time she was mayor?: https://www.democratandchronicle.com...ears/98517896/

Again, crime in NY historically(key word) is usually lower than most other states. That is based on information given in the thread, not some opinion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate
Just wasted my time AGAIN, searching for your guy's testimony on bail reform. If you want your info to be seen, please be more precise. I do want to view your point of view, and learn how I'm wrong, but posting multiple links isn't wroth it, especially when there is nothing there.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:28 PM
 
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Lovely Warren had the benefit of a strong national economy with record high minority employment and record low unemployment for minorities. Then came the riots of 2020. Ever since then, things have been out of control. I do have friends in the police and know whats going on
Again, the article shows that crime had declined from under her time as mayor. Crime went up in cities for mayors regardless of affiliation and city location around 2020.

Also, I told you 3 posts ago where he talks about bail reform in the video. So, you must of missed that part.

It isn't about being "right or wrong" necessarily, but facts beat opinions every time.
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:41 PM
 
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Here is the increase in crime in NYC according to the NYPD statistics:

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/...tics-june-2021


Bail reform:

https://www.cnyhomepage.com/news/new...s-working-now/

https://nypost.com/2021/04/21/new-yo...on-the-street/
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:57 PM
 
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Just like the lawyer stated, there are some things that need to be tweaked in the bail reform, but even the segment/article from the Utica ABC affiliate states that "The bail reform statute made it so that everyone charged with non-violent felonies and misdemeanors gets released when charged."

It looks like the NYPD report states that "For the month of June 2021, the number of murders and shooting incidents in New York City declined compared with June 2020. Murder decreased by 23.3% (33 v. 43) while shooting incidents decreased by 19.5% (165 v. 205). The department made 361-gun arrests for the month of June, a 99.4 % increase compared with the same period a year ago.

In June 2021, overall index crime in the city rose 3.1% compared with June 2020, driven by a 32.3% increase in grand larceny (3,123 v. 2,361), a 31.2% increase in Grand Larceny Auto (921 v. 702), and a 16% increase in robbery (1,121 v. 966). For the month of June, the crime of burglary posted a 49.6% reduction (927 v. 1,828) compared to the previous year."
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