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Old 01-26-2024, 12:17 PM
 
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With looming budget deficits and continuing outmigration of taxpayers, how long can NYS keeping pumping money into local projects?
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Old 01-26-2024, 12:27 PM
 
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^Can't read it and it isn't about Buffalo's housing market, but about outmigration from the little I saw.
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Old 01-26-2024, 12:30 PM
 
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Do you have a source for that? Also, keep in mind that refugees and immigrants aren't exactly the same.
This has been discussed with you previously with links.
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Old 01-26-2024, 12:34 PM
 
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https://www.post-journal.com/news/lo...%20two%20years.

With looming budget deficits and continuing outmigration of taxpayers, how long can NYS keeping pumping money into local projects?
And the real problem is the ones leaving are higher income, while the ones coming are not necesarilly.
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Old 01-26-2024, 12:40 PM
 
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This has been discussed with you previously with links.
That's not what I asked though. I'm just asking what source did you get that from?

Never mind, I'll do the work: https://www.buffalo.edu/news/tipsheets/2021/020.html

Rich NYers actually came back and some people may move up in terms of economic bracket: https://www.route-fifty.com/finance/...y-says/392516/

From the article: "What’s more, the number of millionaires living in New York increased since the pandemic, the report found. The state lost 2,400 people making more than seven figures since 2020, but it has gained 17,500 more in the same time. A strong economy, higher wages and a rise in capital gains helped increase that number."
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Old 01-26-2024, 12:50 PM
 
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From 2018...Buffalo outpaces national average in growth of young adult population: https://www.upstartny.org/inthenews/...opulation.aspx

There is also a 2020 article from G. Scott Thomas in the Buffalo Business First that talks about this, but I'm having trouble accessing the full article: https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/...-emerging.html

There are also plenty of articles about millennials buying homes in the city/area and millennial growth into the city from multiple articles from roughly 2015 to 2020.

This article brings this all together and the thread back on track...

From Spring 2023, Buffalo, New York: A New Take on Grit: https://www.naiop.org/research-and-p...-take-on-grit/

"A Rust Belt city rebounds thanks to catalyzing state and federal investments.

The city of Buffalo, New York, had a reputation for being gritty.

The term was a nod to the city’s industrial heritage, hard-working people and maybe even the NFL team. But the Buffalo that is now being built could be characterized by a different type of grit. The city is determined to build a better future by welcoming new opportunities within technology, entrepreneurialism, advanced manufacturing, clean energy transfer and more.

Over the past five years, an estimated $22.6 billion of development has launched within the eight counties that constitute the Buffalo Niagara region. This includes construction at the Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus, new coworking spaces, the Northland corridor manufacturing and clean energy cluster expansion, increased residential real estate, hotels, industrial plants, food processing facilities and more.

The Buffalo region routinely enters into national and even global news coverage with significant project developments, innovations and large-scale transformations. For example, Joshua Aviv, the CEO of locally based electric vehicle charging startup SparkCharge, introduced President Biden at a White House event in August 2022 celebrating the passage of the CHIPS and Science Act, which aims to boost American semiconductor research, development, and production. SparkCharge was founded at Syracuse University in 2007 and has been headquartered in Buffalo since 2019. (I would actually see Mr. Aviv at Bird Library on the Syracuse University campus at the Spark Charge location there: https://www.syracuse.edu/stories/jos...an-technology/ )

On The Rise

Founded in 1832 as the eastern terminus of the Erie Canal, Buffalo has experienced several cycles of growth and decline. The city’s population reached more than 580,000 in the late 1950s, but it fell over the next few decades, reaching a low of 261,000 in 2010. However, the latest Census data shows that Buffalo’s population grew for the first time in decades. The city’s population in 2020 was 278,000, an increase of 7% from 2010. Among Rust Belt cities, only Columbus, Ohio, and Ann Arbor, Michigan, saw more considerable population gains during the past decade.


In 2012, New York State pledged to strategically invest over $1 billion in the region. Target areas included advanced manufacturing, health and life sciences, and tourism, as well as entrepreneurship and workforce development. In January 2017, New York state expanded the program by $500 million.

In addition to investments, much of Buffalo’s recent rebirth can also be attributed to a growing population of refugees and immigrants, as well as a surge in the number of millennials moving back home or calling Buffalo home for the first time. Burmese, Bengali and many other new Americans are choosing Buffalo for its affordability, job opportunities, and to join family members who have previously made the move and are sharing their experiences. According to a 2016 study, Buffalo’s foreign-born population rose by 95% between 2006 and 2013.

Many of those newcomers are drawn to Buffalo’s affordable housing. The 2022 Demographia International Housing Affordability study by the Urban Reform Institute and the Frontier Centre for Public Policy found that Buffalo ranks as the ninth-most-affordable city for housing in the world. (Nearby Rochester ranked No. 3.) In August 2022, the median home price in Buffalo was $175,000, according to Realtor.com. (The Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis says the median home price in the U.S. was $440,300 in the second quarter of 2022.)

The Buffalo Niagara region has 21 colleges and universities that graduate 25,000 students annually. University at Buffalo (UB) is the largest university in Western New York by enrollment and research dollars spent. Nearly one in five UB students are from outside the U.S. — around 6,000 international students are enrolled at any one time. With industry booming and companies growing throughout Western New York, this talent is highly desirable.

From Shadow to Beacon

There is perhaps no better symbol of Buffalo’s resiliency than Seneca One Tower. At 40 stories, it is the tallest building in the city’s skyline. In the years following the financial crash of 2008, it stood mostly empty, casting both a physical and symbolic shadow over the city.

Today, Seneca One, owned by Washington, D.C.’s largest developer, Douglas Jemal of Douglas Development, has undergone a complete transformation. Façade improvements, including much-needed paint and streetscaping, make the building more welcoming. Douglas Development even added to the square footage of the property, with annexed buildings increasing streetside retail opportunities and walkability improvements. Rather than sitting empty, the building is now almost fully leased. It’s a crucial part of the city’s thriving technology and entrepreneurial ecosystem.

For example, M&T Bank, the nation’s 11th largest bank, is headquartered in Buffalo. In 2019, M&T committed to creating 1,000 new technology jobs in the city. After conducting a comprehensive site search for a new tech hub where it could house those 1,000 new hires and coalesce its already existing tech talent — eventually totaling over 1,500 individuals — the company chose Seneca One Tower.

Since the announcement, other tenants have followed. 43North, the state-funded startup competition and incubator that awards $5 million annually to startups that win its “Shark Tankâ€-style competition, has taken a floor in the building, and it brought along many of the promising young companies within its portfolio. Odoo, a software-as-a-service company headquartered in Belgium, decided on Buffalo for its U.S. East Coast headquarters after a lengthy and data-driven decision-making process. It now employs significantly more than the 100 employees it initially promised. AML RightSource originally expanded to Buffalo in the Larkinville neighborhood before hiring so rapidly that it outgrew its office space, eventually relocating its anti-money-laundering compliance operations to Seneca One.

The building also features retail, 115 residential apartments, and a location just steps from the city’s redeveloped waterfront known as Canalside, creating the live/work/play desirability sought by young professionals.

Talking Tech

Seneca One anchors one end of Buffalo’s technology corridor while the Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus (BNMC) anchors the other, just over a mile and a half north on Main Street. This helps facilitate the density and range of opportunities needed for a technology ecosystem to thrive.

BNMC, a leader in the life and health sciences sector, is a 120-acre medical campus in downtown Buffalo. It houses a dynamic consortium of hospitals and health care providers, education institutions and research facilities. BNMC is home to world-renowned leaders in oncology, neurosurgery, immunology, vascular surgery, personalized medicine and cardiology.

BNMC is also headquarters for ACV, Buffalo’s first software unicorn. The mobile platform for car dealers to buy and sell cars was a Year 2 winner of the 43North competition, eventually earning a valuation well over $1 billion and hosting a successful IPO in 2021. ACV now has thousands of employees in Buffalo and across the country.

Rural Sourcing, a company that matches U.S.-based software developers to clients, is yet another technology company that chose Buffalo for a new location. It added the region to its portfolio of eight development centers across the U.S. due to the concentration of technology talent in the region."

Also, from the article: "A Resurgence Renewed

The resurgence of Buffalo, with its thousands of job opportunities and investments in its desirability, are not the only factors that may inspire more people to move to Western New York.

The investments in place and community over the last 20 years have made Buffalo a more desirable place to work, purchase a home and raise a family. The successes within the region’s entrepreneurial ecosystem have created more wealth, experience and risk tolerance that will continue to pay dividends. The gains within technology and advanced manufacturing industries have helped to create thousands of jobs.

And the feeling of regional pride — and yes, grit — can sustain a long-term resurgence that writes the next chapter of Buffalo’s history, with different buzzwords and assumptions but driven by the same engine that makes everything possible: the people."

There are also segments about Advanced Manufacturing and Canalside.
Some related articles...

The best city to own a home for millennials: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/buffalo...r-millennials/

Where are millennials buying homes?: https://www.ksjbam.com/2022/02/25/wh...-buying-homes/

Buffalo on 'Most Popular City for Millennial Home Buyers' list: https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/lo...b-6da68b25e552
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Old 01-26-2024, 01:05 PM
 
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https://www.post-journal.com/news/lo...%20two%20years.

With looming budget deficits and continuing outmigration of taxpayers, how long can NYS keeping pumping money into local projects?
CK already did respond that this isn't about Buffalo's housing market, I want to also add the Census estimates were all very wrong leading up to 2020. It estimated Buffalo and New York State as a whole were going to lose population and it wasn't the case at all. Once the actual count happened we had very solid growth across the board.

I imagine due to remote work, whatever tools/statistics they use to determine population in estimates will continue to be incorrect until they calibrate based on remote trends. I was a digital nomad for the last 9 months, now spending 4 total in Florida until I make Buffalo my permanent residence again in April. There's no way they could've accurately tracked where I lived for most of the year, and there's a lot more like me.

I could actually foresee a rise in working age snowbirds from northern states to southern states as people can work from anywhere so they can avoid the harsh winter months in Buffalo, but still be there in the summer.
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Old 01-26-2024, 07:10 PM
 
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CK already did respond that this isn't about Buffalo's housing market, I want to also add the Census estimates were all very wrong leading up to 2020. It estimated Buffalo and New York State as a whole were going to lose population and it wasn't the case at all. Once the actual count happened we had very solid growth across the board.

I imagine due to remote work, whatever tools/statistics they use to determine population in estimates will continue to be incorrect until they calibrate based on remote trends. I was a digital nomad for the last 9 months, now spending 4 total in Florida until I make Buffalo my permanent residence again in April. There's no way they could've accurately tracked where I lived for most of the year, and there's a lot more like me.

I could actually foresee a rise in working age snowbirds from northern states to southern states as people can work from anywhere so they can avoid the harsh winter months in Buffalo, but still be there in the summer.
No, the 2020 census showed Buffalo gaining population.
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Old 01-26-2024, 08:55 PM
 
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No, the 2020 census showed Buffalo gaining population.
Correct. But the yearly estimates leading to the 2020 census were wrong because they estimated population declines. It makes me suspicious of their population estimates, but the actual census count is trustworthy.
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Old 01-26-2024, 09:54 PM
 
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Correct. But the yearly estimates leading to the 2020 census were wrong because they estimated population declines. It makes me suspicious of their population estimates, but the actual census count is trustworthy.
It most likely is because of the refuge resettlement program that the city is sponsoring. As mentioned before, about 18,000 refuges have resettled in Buffalo between 2010-2020 and didn't show up on trending data.
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