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Old 04-17-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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Is it illegal to put LLC or Inc. after your name if you are not actually legally one or the other? I understand putting it in front of your name won't give you any legal or other benefits. I know for example, putting a copyright is perfectly legal, even if you don't do the paperwork.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Destrehan, Louisiana
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I would think that its illegal to use if you haven't paid your state for it.

Why would you even want to do that? It doesn't do a thing to protect you as a business without being a true LLC or Inc.

busta
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:19 PM
 
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Just to look more proffesional. I plan on getting one but don't want to spend money on it until I get a revenue.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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Fraud, plain and simple.
Do you state that your insured, when you are not?


You can file for your LLC on-line in most states for as little as $120.
A few simple questions.
Like your name
Name of your business.
Address.

Nothing to hard.

If you can't afford to register for a LLC you can't afford to be in business.
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Old 04-18-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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Just to look more proffesional. I plan on getting one but don't want to spend money on it until I get a revenue.
Companies spend time and money to create a "brand" based on a DBA name that doesn't include Inc. or LLC in the name. What make's you think Inc. or LLC gives you a more professional look?

Also, it's good to see someone trying to get out and develop customers first. Instead of the usual approach of laying out a big biz and then finding out you have no one interested in your product or service.

Remember to get out and sell. Then worry about the other things. Without customers you don't truely have a business.
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Old 04-18-2011, 02:47 PM
 
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Ok, OK. Let's get things straightened out here.

First, your work is copyrighted if it is yours. If you do "paperwork" meaning that you pay the fee and submit the work to the Copyright Office, in addition to your work having copy rights, it also has statutory protection under the US laws providing for penalties and legal fees, etc.

As for the use of Joe Blow Productions, LLC when ther is no LLC, all you have to do is file a fictitious name registration. Here they are $35 bucks. What the state is concerned about is that you are running around ripping people off and they can't figure out who you are.

Hope that helps.
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Old 04-18-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Northern MN
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Na, the state and the feds just want you to pay your taxes.

Registering your business is more professional and it sets your business assets apart from your personal assets.

Do you want to be taken seriously or do you want to be seen as a scamer? Get a business Lic.
Legitimate or illegitimate or is this just a hobby?
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Old 04-18-2011, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I know that this isn't allowed here, but perhaps other states do things differently.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:38 PM
 
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Good advice. I am slowly building several businesses (publishing, record label, VHS-DVD conversion service). I haven't assumed any debt and am doing things one step at a time.

I disagree about not being in buisness if you can't afford 125 dollars. Paul Mitchell started out with like 600 bucks or something and now runs a billion dollar company. Also, people go into debt to start buisnesses as well, so I don't see how being at 0 is worse.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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You don't know if he registered his business before or not or at what point he wised up and did do you?

You can't run from debt be it a LLC, INC, CO or DBA.

What you can do is go legit.
Pay your taxes. (income and sales)
Separate your assets from your business.
(you do know why you do this, right)

Next get a EIN.

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I disagree about not being in buisness if you can't afford 125 dollars. Paul Mitchell started out with like 600 bucks or something and now runs a billion dollar company. Also, people go into debt to start buisnesses as well, so I don't see how being at 0 is worse.
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