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Old 03-06-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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The OP has an extremely narrow and rigid (and frankly, elitist) view of what constitutes a business. Saying a franchisee isn't a business owner is rather silly.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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This thread is funny. OP, why does it bother you so much?

Reminds me of my first job in college (reporter) when it really annoyed me when people said they were "writers" when they had never actually published anything. Luckily, I don't think that way anymore.

Anyway, I am a business owner in the narrowest sense of the OP's definition (created a product/brand from scratch, have employs with payroll/benefits, turn a consistent profit, etc.), but even I can see quite a few flaws with his limited definition. I would include consultants, franchise owners, re-sellers who don't "create" a product, independent sales agents, someone who buys an existing businesses, Ebay/Craiglist sellers, grandma's selling cookies out of their garage.... I mean you have to start somewhere and many successful businesses have been started in these ways.
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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I can see the OP's point. I recently had a bored housewife try to convince me her sales of MoniVie was a business opportunity......She bragged she made a 4 digit income from it.

Her husband was rolling his eyes in the background! I jokingly asked if she was paying for the house yet (3mm house)!
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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People in business don't brag about it because at some point they thought about packing it in and getting a job. Being in business is not a 9-5 five days a week. So when people say they are in business ask them how much sleep they get or count the grey hairs. Yet the real test is ask them about a popular reality show. If they are up to date then, well you know..They are lying..

I will say this. I think basically everyone is their own business. You either market out your abilities to an employer or out to the free market.
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:18 AM
 
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People in business don't brag about it because at some point they thought about packing it in and getting a job. Being in business is not a 9-5 five days a week. So when people say they are in business ask them how much sleep they get or count the grey hairs. Yet the real test is ask them about a popular reality show. If they are up to date then, well you know..They are lying..

I will say this. I think basically everyone is their own business. You either market out your abilities to an employer or out to the free market.
Well I guess the definition of a real business is getting narrower by the second. This thread is getting ridiculous....
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:23 AM
 
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Well I guess the definition of a real business is getting narrower by the second. This thread is getting ridiculous....
Really. I can't wait to find out WHICH reality show is the indicator that one is NOT a businessman or businesswoman!

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Old 03-09-2012, 05:21 AM
 
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I watch no reality television at all. I guess that means I'm the most successful business person alive!
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:17 PM
 
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Based on my experience, most people who truly own a business rarely have time to boast or talk about it...
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:48 AM
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I can't help feeling this thread belongs in a psychology forum to try and determine why such things bother the OP.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:38 AM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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As a retired former business owner of 36 yrs...you must have a business license to be considered a business owner...making or NOT making any money...still a business owner.
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