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Old 05-20-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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Entrepreneurs typically are innovating to bring something at least partially new to market.

Businesspeople are usually just doing the same thing others have done in the past.

I see lots of people use entrepreneur to mean too many things so I thought I would clarify.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:26 PM
 
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Entrepreneurs typically are innovating to bring something at least partially new to market.

Businesspeople are usually just doing the same thing others have done in the past.

I see lots of people use entrepreneur to mean too many things so I thought I would clarify.
You sir, fail.


en·tre·pre·neur
ˌäntrəprəˈno͝or,-ˈnər/
noun
noun: entrepreneur; plural noun: entrepreneurs
a person who organizes and operates a business or businesses, taking on greater than normal financial risks in order to do so.


busi·ness·man
ˈbiznisˌman,-mən/
noun
noun: businessman; plural noun: businessmen; noun: businesswoman; plural noun: businesswomen
a man who works in business or commerce, especially at an executive level.
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:21 PM
 
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You sir, fail.
Thanks but I'm going with my definitions. It seems that your dictionary is too old to pay any attention.

Now if you have something within the past 10 years that you'd like to bring up to change my mind that's fine. But everyone is using the word entrepreneur today to mean anyone who has anything to do with business. I think it better to use a more up to date definition based on current situations.

Don't get me wrong I'm glad you got out that 1700 dictionary. But let's not sell ourselves short.
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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Those are modern definitions.

Something tells me you're upset about something a little more complicated than just definitions.
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Lawrenceville, Pittsburgh
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Inventor? Innovator? Hmmm...
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:15 AM
 
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Something tells me you're upset about something a little more complicated than just definitions.
No. I'm just trying to get with it. A businessman by your definition can be just an emp. I don't like that. It's time to move into this century and separate emps from owners in businesses that are following suit instead of bringing something new to market. That's why I like businessperson and entrepreneur for owners. We'll leave emps as just that... emps!
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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I think of entrepreneur as someone that starts a business .

I agree a businessperson can be used to describe an employee.

But I never think of an entrepreneur as an employee.

I have heard of people mention entrepreneurial employees, but that doesn't seem to make much sense to me.

I don't think an entrepreneur must necessarily invent or do something brand new, but I do agree this is how the term is viewed in our culture.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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Entrepreneurs typically are innovating to bring something at least partially new to market.

Businesspeople are usually just doing the same thing others have done in the past.

I see lots of people use entrepreneur to mean too many things so I thought I would clarify.
That's kind of a ridiculous definition, kind of a self-congratulatory one.

Established companies are constantly bringing new and innovative things into the marketplace.
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:24 AM
 
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A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not necessarily a square.
An entrepreneur is a businessperson, but a businessperson is not necessarily an entrepreneur.

One is just a specific subset of the other. It has nothing to do with "what people have done before." The guy who starts up his own dry cleaning business, or bar, or any other store that has been done countless times before, they're all entrepreneurs and business people.

The manager they hire is a business person, but is not an entrepreneur.

It's that simple. One is a subset of the other. The definitions posted by LordSquidworth stand as correct.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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No. I'm just trying to get with it. A businessman by your definition can be just an emp. I don't like that. It's time to move into this century
"I don't like that. It's time to move into this century"

Do you have ANY idea just how conceited that statement makes you look? Does the world revolve around YOU or something?

Geez. I don't care if you "don't like that." The dictionary definitions ARE the definitions. You don't have to "like it," but that's REALITY. You don't get to change the definitions of words based on nothing but your own personal fancy.
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