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Old 03-30-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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You're right, this IS an interesting question. I think men come on to waitresses simply because they can. As we've discussed in the "the cashier said 'have a nice day', does it mean she likes me?" threads, people come onto service personnel (subconsciously) because they're a captive audience to the come-ons, and they're paid to respond pleasantly. But are those the women the high-powered guys want to marry? In most cases, probably not. We notice the cases in which the senator marries his staff person because they're sensationalistic, but we don't notice all the quietly, happily-married couples who are professional equals, because it's pretty mundane, and they don't stand out.
Exactly. And census clearly shows that professional, academic, SES equals tend to marry. I see it in my own life. All of the men and women I work with (who are scientists and that comprises a motivated, career focused bunch) are married to either other scientists or career-minded people. Anecdotally, I have noticed women professionally dating down to a greater degree, which I understand is more likely to be out of the norm.
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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It's a new trend for women to marry down, because men are falling behind educationally.

Yes: academics marry other academics, lawyers marry other lawyers, and so forth. Except that some men in the more career-driven business-related careers, the fight-your-way-to-the-top guys marry the sorority party girl, because she can host the cocktail parties and business dinners for the company mucky-mucks, and help him get ahead that way. And she might be a good cook, so what else does he need? There's also that. But I wouldn't say they're all like that, contrary to the OP's impression.

Look, OP; Madeleine Albright (former Sec'y of State) and Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Supreme Court Justice), not to mention Hillary Clinton, and others like them were happily married, in spite of being very goal- and achievement-oriented in their careers. So, relax.
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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It's a new trend for women to marry down, because men are falling behind educationally.

Yes: academics marry other academics, lawyers marry other lawyers, and so forth. Except that some men in the more career-driven business-related careers, the fight-your-way-to-the-top guys marry the sorority party girl, because she can host the cocktail parties and business dinners for the company mucky-mucks, and help him get ahead that way. And she might be a good cook, so what else does he need? There's also that. But I wouldn't say they're all like that, contrary to the OP's impression.
I think these, what I would consider rather lame, people aren't a majority. So, I don't think the OP has anything to worry about beyond looks and personality like most people.
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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She can always buy some boobs. JOKE, joke, sorry, I couldn't resist.
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Howard County, MD
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I'm about to graduate from college and extremely career driven. I don't care if I have to work 60 hours a week to be the best at what I do. I'm a true "type A" personality.

Type A is defined as : highly independent, take charge, decisive, direct, business-like, ambitious, efficient, motivated, persistent, focused, risk taking, practical solution oriented, dislike routine, high achieving, no-nonsense, multitasking, deadline driven and change oriented.

I'm also only attracted to men similar to me. I respect intelligent and savvy men. I'm generally attracted to type A men and men who even exhibit neurosis such as being high strung or a perfectionist.

But from the group of people I know, it seems like most of these men end up with women who have no ambition whatsoever and I wonder if they're attracted to that. They end up with administrative assistants, rich daddies girls who live off trust funds, social workers, nurses, teachers, ex-models, writers, women who went to college but never had careers, etc.

Are professional women in the corporate world not seen as feminine of sexy? In my free time, I dress very feminine and cocktail waitressed for 4 years while in college. When I was cocktailing, I felt like every type of man was attracted to me.

Now, working in a corporate firm doing serious work, I feel like a ghost. Is being a corporate worker and a driven woman unattractive and unfeminine?
No, but being conceited and snobby is.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:02 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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Isn't funny that some women complain they get hit on in the work place and then when they don't get attention from men (ones they deem attractive at least) they complain as well? When one can get a sexual harassment charge for so much as brushing hands, one can hardly expect the workplace conducive to amorous advances.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:56 PM
 
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Most of those women are unnactractive though. Then they have the nerve to blame their career on why they can't find a suitable man

No dude turns down a girl because of her career
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:03 PM
 
Location: SF CA, USA
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Most of those women are unnactractive though. Then they have the nerve to blame their career on why they can't find a suitable man

No dude turns down a girl because of her career
I can imagine some careers might be off putting, because of the types of personalities they attract. But in general I think you are correct, men can find women of any career attractive, if the personality and physical attraction is there.

I would not date the OP, not because she's a corporate worker, but because her relentless A type personality and my own would not gel well at all. I live by the Italian phrase: Live to eat, not eat to live.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Most of those women are unnactractive though. Then they have the nerve to blame their career on why they can't find a suitable man

No dude turns down a girl because of her career
Not true.

I've been turned down for my career when I worked as a mechanic. One of my best girlfriends is a union welder and she's been turned down for hers as well. Many men won't date a woman in a traditionally male career.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:31 PM
 
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Now, working in a corporate firm doing serious work, I feel like a ghost. Is being a corporate worker and a driven woman unattractive and unfeminine?
Only by tools.
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