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Old 08-27-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Charlotte,NC, US, North America, Earth, Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way Galaxy
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I thought this might be a fun topic. If you were starting a high tech company and you had to make one key hire for your company, who would it be? Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Sergey Brin (founder of Google) or Mark Zuckerberg? Obviously these are the "young" versions of these individuals (with or in Mark's case, the college version).

I would have to choose Jobs between and Gates. In my final analysis Jobs would be my guy? Why because he questioned everything. While this is annoying, not accepting the status quo, in my opinion is the beginning of asking "what if". I think he was really about the company and the products.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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Jobs, for two reasons. One, he always viewed things from a holistic and consumer perspective when it came to things such as design and usability. Second, in his second tenure at Apple, he had the strategic wheels to understand where the world was going and what Apple needed to do to supply it.

Not a total Apple fanboy here, although I use its products. However, when you realize that Jobs essentially transformed the typesetting, graphic design, imaging, music, video, and publishing industries with the various products he brought to the forefront, I'm thinking he would be my choice.

Of the three, I actually think Gates is (Relatively speaking!) the weakest choice of the three. Not to diminish his accomplishments, but I think his success was as much being in the right place at the right time with an operating system that he could push through on IBM's unstoppable existing distribution channel. That momentum really propelled MicroSoft's growth.
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Charlotte,NC, US, North America, Earth, Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way Galaxy
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Jobs, for two reasons. One, he always viewed things from a holistic and consumer perspective when it came to things such as design and usability. Second, in his second tenure at Apple, he had the strategic wheels to understand where the world was going and what Apple needed to do to supply it.

Not a total Apple fanboy here, although I use its products. However, when you realize that Jobs essentially transformed the typesetting, graphic design, imaging, music, video, and publishing industries with the various products he brought to the forefront, I'm thinking he would be my choice.

Of the three, I actually think Gates is (Relatively speaking!) the weakest choice of the three. Not to diminish his accomplishments, but I think his success was as much being in the right place at the right time with an operating system that he could push through on IBM's unstoppable existing distribution channel. That momentum really propelled MicroSoft's growth.
Good points and interestingly I started this thread after watching the Jobs Lost interview from 1995 (on netflix). Was really intrigued how Jobs in 1995 saw things like being untethered from the computer and being "mobile" - remember this was 1995.

Gates, I think was/is a master opportunist. He took advantage of IBM (and basically screwed them on the original PC OS deal...) and then he took advantage of Apples "wildnerness years" where Apple created nothing and allowed Gates to invetibly catch up to Apple/Mac featurewise with Win95.

Jobs definitely because he was a visionary and he only would want to bring products that were revolutionary. Interestingly I would take Zuckerberg over Gates because I think he's a young visionary as well. He just got started in an era of immense real-time scrutiny so it may not seem like he's on the ball now.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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Yeah, right. Like you can hire that type of person. They are competition, not employees.
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Old 08-29-2013, 05:08 PM
 
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I would pick Jobs, although I'd debate whether I'd want him as CEO or as Chief of R&D. I think Gates is more of the shrewd CEO type, but Jobs is a better designer.

Jobs did what nobody else in tech could do -- he brought design into an industry that lacked it, and in doing so he made it appeal to the masses. Those of you who were into consumer tech in its early days (1980s) will remember these sterile devices that catered to nerds and businessmen (eg, IBM PC/XT running MSDOS). Women were not into tech. Nowadays, iPads and iPhones are used equally between the sexes. 25 years ago it would have been inconceivable that "nerdy" tech gadgets would be used by females, but look at the world now. Female are shopping at the Apple store then heading over to their clothing store. That NEVER would have happened in the 1980s -- women wouldn't set foot into a tech store like Fry's.

You can thank Jobs for that societal transformation
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Old 08-29-2013, 06:45 PM
 
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My choice would be Jobs hands down. It isn't even close. He had the ability to push the techies to create devices that appealed to many, instead of a niche market. That is not an easy task... There is no doubt that Jobs had his many quirks, but his intense passion was undeniable.
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:17 PM
 
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I would not choose Zuckerberg because he will betray you, and steal your ideas.

I dont need Gates. I can do everything he can, I just need wealthy parents.

I need a Jobs though.
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Old 09-02-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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Of the three, I actually think Gates is (Relatively speaking!) the weakest choice of the three. Not to diminish his accomplishments, but I think his success was as much being in the right place at the right time with an operating system that he could push through on IBM's unstoppable existing distribution channel. That momentum really propelled MicroSoft's growth.
I'd put Zuckerberg lower than Gates.

He had one simple idea, and that was it. His management of it since then... not great... It's just an insulated product because there isn't any competition (or real competition). A product that's sorta evolved into the trailer park of the internet.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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I'd put Zuckerberg lower than Gates.

He had one simple idea, and that was it. His management of it since then... not great... It's just an insulated product because there isn't any competition (or real competition). A product that's sorta evolved into the trailer park of the internet.
I think that's a valid point. I stand corrected. Apologies to Bill.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:05 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Jobs, Gates, or Brin - all genuises. I would pick Jobs first, he was a brilliant visionary and knew how to anticipate consumer needs and develop products around them.

I am not sure about what the fuss is about Zuckerberg.

My company woud look like this:

CEO - Gates
CMO/CPM (Chief Marketing Officer or Chief Product Officer) - Jobs
CTO - Brin
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