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If waitstaff don't meet the Federal min wage when their tips are included, the employer has to make up the difference. It's illegal for any employee to make less then Federal minimum wage regardless of state wage laws. Not sure if that is what your are implying, but it's common misinformation.
Example: server makes $2.50/hour and receives $3.00 in tips (for simplicity we are assuming 1 hour of work is done). That equals $5.50. But federal minimum wage is $7.25 (as of 2017), so the employer has to raise the wages from $2.50/hour to $4.25/hour. If the employer continues to pay the $2.50, that is illegal.
Yes, but if one table tips them $5 and the other table 0, they still make more than $7.25 per hour so the employer doesn't have to make up the difference and the server takes home less than they would have if both tables tipped knowing that that tip was part of the server's wages.
Yes, but if one table tips them $5 and the other table 0, they still make more than $7.25 per hour so the employer doesn't have to make up the difference and the server takes home less than they would have if both tables tipped knowing that that tip was part of the server's wages.
What's your point? The server still getting at least minimum wage.
What's your point? The server still getting at least minimum wage.
My point is that in our society, it's understood that tipping is part of how servers are compensated. Doesn't matter if someone likes that or not, it is still the way it is. The fact that they have to make at least minimum wage doesn't change that. And only cheapskates go out to a restaurant with table service thinking it's ok to not tip the server.
So if an Hvac employee comes and installs and Ac system and the bill is 10K, you tip the guy $2,000 or more?
If an employee of a plumber comes and puts in a sewer lateral for $14,000, you tip them $2,800?
Even when they are union members making $50/ hour?
I find that amazing!
I think it is pure bull #@&^. Just a Internet brag. I do handyman work and am quit good at it and I do get tips often but it is almost always a rounding up of the bill. Like if the bill comes to $280 I will often get $300. I never expect it as I will be well paid either way. If the job has a bid price it is the same way.
I think it is pure bull #@&^. Just a Internet brag. I do handyman work and am quit good at it and I do get tips often but it is almost always a rounding up of the bill. Like if the bill comes to $280 I will often get $300. I never expect it as I will be well paid either way. If the job has a bid price it is the same way.
I always round up when I have a good handyman. I want them to make sure I'm at the top of the list when I call to set up another appointment! Plus my regular guy charges just the actual price for parts that he supplies. I've told him he's wrong and he's entitled to a mark up but he doesn't do it. So I mark it up for him! lol!
My point is that in our society, it's understood that tipping is part of how servers are compensated. Doesn't matter if someone likes that or not, it is still the way it is. The fact that they have to make at least minimum wage doesn't change that. And only cheapskates go out to a restaurant with table service thinking it's ok to not tip the server.
Is there some expectation that that a server job should pay more than minimum wage?
My point is that in our society, it's understood that tipping is part of how servers are compensated. Doesn't matter if someone likes that or not, it is still the way it is. The fact that they have to make at least minimum wage doesn't change that. And only cheapskates go out to a restaurant with table service thinking it's ok to not tip the server.
and it's understood that tipping is optional, and you shouldn't demand 5% much less 10 or 20% either
if they have 5 people who tipped $1 each for the hour they were there, then that's what they get and they still make minimum wage
there is absolutely no reason why waitresses should expect more if they don't put in the effort to get a better paying job that doesn't rely on tips
if they can make more, great, but demanding I tip them more than $0 is ludicrous
I would be embarrassed to go out to dinner with this person. The server might have been trying to figure out what went wrong, so she could correct it in the future, because a <10% tip indicates poor service. I go into every eating out experience with the assumption of +20%. As far as tipping goes, servers get tips, because they don't make minimum wage traditionally. Mechanics make good money, so they don't get tips.
% of bar bill isn't always the way to go.
I been to dive bar where happy hour beer is $3. If server is super nice, I might drop $2. Flipside, I drink nice scotch. If I drink one scotch drink which cost $25. I may not drop 20% depending on my mood & service
Tipping is out of control in USA. I love many foreign countries where tipping isn't the norm.
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