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Old 02-25-2019, 02:57 PM
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Actually, I can. And given that you didn't bother to read the conditions of the deal, resorting instead to nebulous rhetoric, you can't.
"Nebulous rhetoric". In other words, I disagree with you. Amazing. So much for anything you have to say.
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Old 02-25-2019, 06:54 PM
 
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"Nebulous rhetoric". In other words, I disagree with you. Amazing. So much for anything you have to say.

Fine. Actually come up with something substantial that demonstrates that the loss of $27 Billion in tax revenue isn't a hit.
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Old 02-28-2019, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Forest Service Cabin-90% of the yr. Sis & I inherited it and I bought her out.
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I disagree that the other players are terrible at logistics. Amazon is using them too.

I'm just wondering how long Amazon's free shipping model/free 2 day with Prime membership will last. It doesn't make financial sense. It costs real money to ship things. Where is that money coming from?

That delivery driver that drove out to the country to my daughter's farm last Sunday night at 8:30 pm to deliver a $10 book for free? How is Amazon paying for this?
I think many of the drivers don't realize the wear and tear on their car. Slowly that will become fact.


Most don't even make minimum wage.

Yet Many people are disabled or aged, so I suspect that may be who is driving also
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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By mastering logistics, both Amazon & Wal Mart left all foes sniffing for crumbs.
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Old 03-02-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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By mastering logistics, both Amazon & Wal Mart left all foes sniffing for crumbs.

Well, logistics is certainly a huge component of their success. But another aspect of it is how they met unfilled needs.

Wal-Mart made its bones in tiny markets, providing quality goods at lower prices with better merchandising than your sleepy mom and pop store. They did business where retailers such as Sears would not deign to go.

So whenever I read some article decrying the traditional small business when Wal-Mart came to these small town, I always want to ask: Did you ever live in those towns? Options were limited and prices were through the roof. So Wal-Mart was a freaking godsend to those communities.

From the time Wal-Mart gets permission to build to the time they have the ribbon cutting, those small town merchants have a couple of years to get their acts together. Yet they never bothered to differentiate themselves. They never really tried to lower their prices. They never really tried to clean up their collective acts.

Small merchants can survive in the age of Wal-Mart and Amazon. But doing so means adhering to higher standards of service to justify their price points. If you need an example, look no further than the local hardware store. Home Depot and Lowe's delivers a wide array of inventory at a low price. So there are times when I'll roam the aisles there picking up lightbulbs and the whatnot.

On the other hand, there are times when a) I don't want to drive across town and b) I need someone to give me the benefit of his expertise. Many is the time I've strolled into my local hardware store holding a photo of a widget on my iPhone. The guy will take one look and say, "I know what you need," and comes back with the product that will do the trick, along with suggestions on how to get the best results. I'll happily pay 20% more for that.

Another trend? Local booksellers have been on the comeback trail. Why? Because they stopped just being a place where you pick up the latest bestseller and instead have become places to meet authors, form book clubs, and a host of other things that form a community.

In other words, all markets divide into low-cost and high-touch. Amazon and Wal-Mart have snagged the lower end. But there will always be a place for the higher-touch, experiential retailer who really is good at creating customer loyalty.
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Old 03-02-2019, 10:35 PM
 
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Another trend? Local booksellers have been on the comeback trail. Why? Because they stopped just being a place where you pick up the latest bestseller and instead have become places to meet authors, form book clubs, and a host of other things that form a community.

In other words, all markets divide into low-cost and high-touch. Amazon and Wal-Mart have snagged the lower end. But there will always be a place for the higher-touch, experiential retailer who really is good at creating customer loyalty.
Well stated. Though my background is manufacturing mgmt., not retail, I always relish opportunities to help them earn price premiums, their version of high touch, justifying being above the market price based on proving you add value.


My town had a local hardware store which burned to the ground a few years ago, but lasted decades after Home Depot & Lowes came around, for the same reason you willingly pay an extra 20%. Their M.O., like my price premium employers, was "We will solve the problems you have that no one else has proven capable of doing".
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Old 03-08-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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I disagree that the other players are terrible at logistics. Amazon is using them too.

I'm just wondering how long Amazon's free shipping model/free 2 day with Prime membership will last. It doesn't make financial sense. It costs real money to ship things. Where is that money coming from?

That delivery driver that drove out to the country to my daughter's farm last Sunday night at 8:30 pm to deliver a $10 book for free? How is Amazon paying for this?
That was most likely an independent flex driver who was given X number of packages to deliver in Y hours and Z dollars to deliver them. Amazon only cares that they do it in the time frame given.

Here's the life of a flex driver: https://www.bostonglobe.com/business...A8K/story.html
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Old 05-17-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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Yesterday I ordered an item from Amazon that had free next day shipping. I monitored its progress.

It did not get processed until this morning. It left Chattanooga at around 9 or 10am, and was scanned at an Amazon facility in Smyrna at 4:23pm. Then, it went out for delivery at 5:50pm. I was able to watch exactly where the driver was and knew when he was heading to my house. The package was dropped at my doorstep at 8:23pm.

This was for an item that cost $70 and the shipping was free.

If I wanted it to ship this quickly with UPS, it would have easily cost $35... and I don't know that UPS could even get something to me next day if I didn't order it until 8:30pm the night before.

Amazon is unbelievable. They are definitely mastering logistics. I think it's because they have to, because all the other players are, well, terrible at it.

Once they really perfect everything, I don't see why they couldn't go entirely into the parcel industry. Why wouldn't they start delivering any package from anyone and to anyone for a fee? I think if they did, the service would be better and the price cheaper than UPS or USPS. Maybe they'd only do it for big e-commerce players, who would be responsible for getting everything to an Amazon distribution facility, and then they would handle it from there.

I don't know exactly what it would look like. All I know is UPS, USPS and FedEx better clean up their acts and figure out how to do their jobs better and cheaper.

What do you think? Could Atlanta's own UPS be in real trouble? I think they are.
Ordered 2 humidifiers from amazon, one came in broken. Been 4 days still trying to get it back for a refund! hassle from Amazon and UPS on getting it picked up for return!!!! UPS like all Billion Dollar corporations have turned to poor customer service and Amazon has their service center in India!!!
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Old 05-22-2019, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Tucson AZ & Leipzig, Germany
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I think it's time for the Trump administration to put Amazon under the microscope. They are getting too powerful.
That means you favor government intervention into private markets instead of letting market forces go head to head against each other, to find the most efficient ways to meet customer demands? Republicans used to scream "socialism" when somebody talked about government intervening against private enterprise. J. Bezos owns the Wash Post and has different political views than dear leader Trump, but that does not mean that Trump should use the power of government to work against Amazon? That sounds like something that Putin would do. Amazon is an exponentially more successful company than anything Trump ever managed, maybe that is why he has so much ire for Bezos.

Unless Amazon is doing something that specifically violates state or federal laws, and you can cite which laws those are, why not let WalMart slug it out with Amazon? I personally like Walmart's in-store pickup over Amazon's home delivery. I don't buy lots of stuff online, but I don't like stuff sitting on my apartment front door if I am not at home when a delivery is made.

The retail and consumer products sector of the economy is still evolving and working out issues, on how technology will change the shopping experience. Don't let government clog up that process right now, it could result in choking off some new innovations that have not hit the market yet.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Industry buys from companies that still use UPS and others shippers to get the product to them. Here at the hospital UPS and many other shippers are here everyday. Amazon is not delivering to us.
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