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Old 05-17-2020, 03:34 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Automobile production requires a bunch of suppliers in the vicinity in order for all the parts to come together at the same time. You know, like the auto suppliers in Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia and Alabama.

There's a reason the Deep South has so many auto and truck assembly plants. That's where Tesla would do better building a plant.
That's the beauty of Tesla i.e. less parts (less than 100) is less maintenance, though it's certainly a factor to establish supply chain on a new product.
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Austin should have talent, but living there also requires workers to make substantial salaries.

Tulsa is a much smaller city, however it is a little off the beaten path.

Automobile production requires a bunch of suppliers in the vicinity in order for all the parts to come together at the same time. You know, like the auto suppliers in Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia and Alabama.

There's a reason the Deep South has so many auto and truck assembly plants. That's where Tesla would do better building a plant.
It's because the cost of labor is lower in the South, because all the states there have Right to Work.
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:34 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Maybe highly skilled California skilled engineers won't want to come to Austin and attempt to tolerate the highly blazing hot summer weather.
They won't need to; there is a highly-skilled/well-educated workforce already in Austin (especially compared to Tulsa).
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Old 05-19-2020, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Austin says NO to Tesla: https://www.austinsaysno.com/


Tulsa supposedly submitted its final incentive package to Tesla Monday night, so we will likely know relatively soon.
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Old 05-19-2020, 09:15 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Austin says NO to Tesla
Not quite, lol; Austin (and Texas) has welcomed Tesla with open arms. In fact, Tesla already has an office there for its autopilot hardware engineers (as well as a showroom); additionally, the new Tesla chip is currently produced in Austin (Samsung).

There's even been speculation in re: a second HQ of sorts.
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Old 05-19-2020, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, Austin, Texas
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Austin says NO to Tesla: https://www.austinsaysno.com/

Tulsa supposedly submitted its final incentive package to Tesla Monday night, so we will likely know relatively soon.

I don't think that website will get much traffic from Austinites.

Thing is the site is outside of Austin city limits and not even in Travis County, so an incentive package will have to be between Williamson County or the state. Since the major local issues are traffic and affordability this project doesn't really affect those things to a large extent, hence the lack of controversy.

I'm sure there will be fights over property tax assessments, incentives/targets, and reforming dealer franchise rules, but again nothing that can't be overcome. In a few years we will be seeing a lot more Teslas at the track come Formula One.
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Diverse group of individuals, organizations behind Tulsa for Tesla

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/loca...6b9cd54.html#1
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Old 05-24-2020, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Musk is frustrated with Fremont. While the Governor passed the buck to the county, the county passed the buck to LE Musk wanted the ok to open his plant and nobody was willing to give him the criteria or the green light to do so, so he just did it. It's unfortunate because in Fremont is the Nummi autoworks plaza. Historically all of the big three domestic producers did so in California. Nummi (GM) was the last of them and had slowly been shifting over the plant to Toyota, which was also pulling out...so it was a good way to keep autoworkers employed in a space already setup for building vehicles.

However, I have no doubt that Tesla has had some nasty unfair hits he's had to take along the way. These elected officials get themselves on enough boards that they staff with their appointed friends and they're set for life. He'd drawn up safety provisions and a new manual of operations and my guess is nobody in the government even read the thing. He wanted to reopen his business and they were keeping it shut. When he complained, one of the elected officials tweeted back to F__ Elon Musk.

Ok, the boy is taking his ball and going home. He's probably also seen crazy productivity improvement in Reno vs here and has to be wondering how much better it can get away from the SV work ethic.
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Old 05-26-2020, 11:16 AM
 
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Tesla’s next factory is going to be in Austin, Texas, and it’s going to happen quickly:

https://electrek.co/2020/05/15/tesla...-austin-texas/


The race to secure Tesla’s next factory is apparently over.

According to a reliable source familiar with the matter, Tesla CEO Elon Musk is set on bringing the next Tesla Gigafactory, or now Terafactory, to Austin, or at least close to the city.

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Old 05-27-2020, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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FROM ABOVE ARTICLE - Update: After we published this report, three different publications happened to “coincidentally” report, each based on a single anonymous source, that Tesla was in talks with Austin and Tulsa last week.

Tulsa for Tesla promo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3kq...ature=emb_logo

Tulsa billionaire George Kaiser backs this promo. He has donated over $1 billion for civic improvements in Tulsa.
https://vimeo.com/420696275

In addition to all that, Jim Bridenstine the head of NASA and from the Tulsa area, has surely touted to Tesla heads, the need for them to locate their assembly plant in Tulsa.

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