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The president of McDonald's USA threw shade at California lawmakers for passing a fast-food law that he said would make it "all but impossible to run small business restaurants" in the state, Joe Erlinger said in a January 25 open letter.
The president of McDonald's USA threw shade at California lawmakers for passing a fast-food law that he said would make it "all but impossible to run small business restaurants" in the state, Joe Erlinger said in a January 25 open letter.
McDs are not small business restaurants. They charge lots of moolah to open a franchise, and speculators usually open multiple to dominate the area. Then they do sale lease backs on the property to recoup millions. In fact, usually there are too many McDs in an area or at least it was like that for a long while. I believe many fast food places are starting to scale back now.
But seriously, where did all that moolah come from in the first place? How can they not afford to pay workers when the price of just doing business has not gotten any cheaper over the decades? And why on earth are you speculating on something with such low margins that are being claimed to begin with?
Lets face it if the definition of small business is there is a handful of principals, then I guess Madoff Investments was a small business too. It only occupied one floor of a modest Manhattan building. The other floor was used to house old computer systems that held all the secrets, and no one else besides Madoff and his most trusted inner circle were allowed on.
Yes. It would be costly to small businesses. Most McDonald’s are not owned by McDonalds because they are franchises. His pay has nothing to do with the fact that it would hurt small businesses
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Yes. It would be costly to small businesses. Most McDonald’s are not owned by McDonalds because they are franchises. His pay has nothing to do with the fact that it would hurt small businesses
Most McDonalds are a single franchise owner which is indeed a small business. There are some cases where an owner has 4-5 of them in an area, but there is a big difference between them with 8-10 employees at each location and corporate Mcd, which has 200,000 office employees. Their pay ranges from $33,906 to $127,899 a year, so some of those office staff are making less than the proposed burger flipper pay
(33,906 is $17.65/hour)
Most McDonalds are a single franchise owner which is indeed a small business. There are some cases where an owner has 4-5 of them in an area, but there is a big difference between them with 8-10 employees at each location and corporate Mcd, which has 200,000 office employees. Their pay ranges from $33,906 to $127,899 a year, so some of those office staff are making less than the proposed burger flipper pay
(33,906 is $17.65/hour)
I dont know about that. Plus each one may be under its own separate exclusive name, and have its own bank account but if the principals are all the same, then its really not a single owner with single location. Do you have evidence to what you claim? I cant seem to find list of all McD franchisees and how many stores. I can only see news about the largest owners and they all own quite a few and dominate an area.
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I dont know about that. Plus each one may be under its own separate exclusive name, and have its own bank account but if the principals are all the same, then its really not a single owner with single location. Do you have evidence to what you claim? I cant seem to find list of all McD franchisees and how many stores. I can only see news about the largest owners and they all own quite a few and dominate an area.
When I had a business and was advertising to other businesses I learned this, it takes some time. I go to the county assessor records tool and punch in the address, which gives the owner. Then I go to the state business registration site and look up their name. In our case, the owner of the one McD in our city has a corporation listed out of another city where he owns a second one, both under the corporate name dba McDonalds of ______city.
In a recent SEC filing, McDonald's stated that they had 40,000+ restaurants and 93% (37,000+) were owned by franchisees. That's been the case for a long time.
I was traveling yesterday and stopped at a roadside McDonalds: Large fry, basic cheeseburger: $6.40!
You want to pay everyone a living wage, expect to pay for it! You notice I didn't order drink, yeah they were out of carbonation/ no soda drinks available. Burger sucked BTW. People eat at McDonalds because it is fast and cheap, start backing away from those ideas and the customers will back away too!
CEO pay is non-sequitur to wages of a low level employee. I'd bet if you added up all the wages of every low level burger flipper in the country they would make more than the CEO.
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I was traveling yesterday and stopped at a roadside McDonalds: Large fry, basic cheeseburger: $6.40!
You want to pay everyone a living wage, expect to pay for it! You notice I didn't order drink, yeah they were out of carbonation/ no soda drinks available. Burger sucked BTW. People eat at McDonalds because it is fast and cheap, start backing away from those ideas and the customers will back away too!
CEO pay is non-sequitur to wages of a low level employee. I'd bet if you added up all the wages of every low level burger flipper in the country they would make more than the CEO.
So you verified that you get what you pay for. My last burger was at a Tipsy Cow in Issaquah, WA, and it was great. !/3 lb. of fresh ground beef, Lettuce, Tomato, Yellow Onion, White Cheddar Cheese and their Sauce, delicious fries, and a nice cold beer. My wife had diet Coke, and the total with tip was $54. McDonalds serves people that want cheap and fast, eliminate either of those traits and they will stop going there. Already we have seen their prices increased and/or "value" items removed to pay for pay increases required to help with the shortage of workers and the "$15 minimum wage" trend. In our state the minimum is now $15.74, companies have to raise prices to pay employees more and maintain some profit, or they will have to close up.
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