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The fact that you have such a problem with the "god/jesus/fish/yes on prop 8"-thing tells me that you're likely ill-suited to your environment. Although, as already noted, there are definitely atheists and liberals in The Valley, too.
And why does the whole state need to share the same political-socio climate as the Bay Area-LA?
I was raised in the Central Valley and am planning to return. There are things I'll have to travel a little farther to enjoy; on the same token, the location is close proximity from many things. Yes, it's more laid-back, but I don't need excitement all the time. And I'll fit in its political-socio climate better than where I live now.
There's the fkg gangs, but they're all over, anyway. There are many of them spread out in parts of the Portland-Metro area (although the Portland posters like to pretend it doesn't exist). Enough of my comments on this one before I say something really inappropriate.
It gets awfully hot there but winters are short and you can't find better springtimes anywhere. Despite the air quality, skies are still blue often and you can see zillions of stars in the sky. That's something I cannot enjoy here in Portlandia where the air is "cleaner".
Since I was raised on a dairy farm, I actually don't mind the smell of cattle pastures. It's nostalgic, and a good one. Understandably, that should be a tough one for a person who wasn't exposed to it growing up. Me, I'm one of the very few people who thinks rain "stinks". I really do ~ to me it has a rancid odor. Needless to say, the Great San Joaquin beckons me home.
Bluesmama, what part of the central valley are you from? And as I understand it you are currently residing in Portland? Funny, cause I'm looking to move there, going to visit first of course. Can you give me a general run down of living costs from here/central valley and Portland (assuming you've been back here as of recent)? Also if you can give me objective differences, if possible.
Rain cleans the air, unless you live in a dirty city and the sun shows up right after to amplify what's been pushed back to the ground.
Bluesmama, what part of the central valley are you from? And as I understand it you are currently residing in Portland? Funny, cause I'm looking to move there, going to visit first of course. Can you give me a general run down of living costs from here/central valley and Portland (assuming you've been back here as of recent)? Also if you can give me objective differences, if possible.
Rain cleans the air, unless you live in a dirty city and the sun shows up right after to amplify what's been pushed back to the ground.
Sure. But let me send you a private message so that we don't trail off-topic on this thread.
Dunno so much about "fruits" in the Valley (which likely remain "in the shade" here anyway). But as for "gun nuts", "religious nuts", "racist nuts", "political nuts" or "hunting nuts" ("if it flies, it dies!")... we sure seem to grow 'em aplenty!!
No, I was referring to the real thing: all the fruit and nuts grown in the Central Valley literally feed the world. The production of food is amazing and one of the main reasons I actually enjoy spending time in the San Joaquin valley. The political "fruits and nuts" are over the mountains along the coast. I mean that in a joking way, btw!
The fact that you have such a problem with the "god/jesus/fish/yes on prop 8"-thing tells me that you're likely ill-suited to your environment. Although, as already noted, there are definitely atheists and liberals in The Valley, too.
And why does the whole state need to share the same political-socio climate as the Bay Area-LA?
I was raised in the Central Valley and am planning to return. There are things I'll have to travel a little farther to enjoy; on the same token, the location is close proximity from many things. Yes, it's more laid-back, but I don't need excitement all the time. And I'll fit in its political-socio climate better than where I live now.
There's the fkg gangs, but they're all over, anyway. There are many of them spread out in parts of the Portland-Metro area (although the Portland posters like to pretend it doesn't exist). Enough of my comments on this one before I say something really inappropriate.
It gets awfully hot there but winters are short and you can't find better springtimes anywhere. Despite the air quality, skies are still blue often and you can see zillions of stars in the sky. That's something I cannot enjoy here in Portlandia where the air is "cleaner".
Since I was raised on a dairy farm, I actually don't mind the smell of cattle pastures. It's nostalgic, and a good one. Understandably, that should be a tough one for a person who wasn't exposed to it growing up. Me, I'm one of the very few people who thinks rain "stinks". I really do ~ to me it has a rancid odor. Needless to say, the Great San Joaquin beckons me home.
I think your assessment is quite fair and provides a broader picture of what the Central Valley is. Driving down the 99 freeway gives the person a look at California unlike the rest of the state. Literally miles and miles of fruit and nut orchards\ every kind of vegetable imaginable\ rice\ cotton and, yes, cattle. But the cattle country is mostly by Interstate 5 where when you drive by a cattle yard the smell is immediate. But the Harris Ranch near Coalinga has some of the best steaks in California if you stop at their restaurant. It seems the entire valley is super-productive when you consider oil wells also.
I know it can be boring when all the radio stations seem to be in Spanish or some evangelical preacher or right-wing political nuts. But there is an ESPN station in every large town so you can listen to sports talk from Bakersfield to Redding!
The Sierra Nevada is only an hour away for the most part with some of the most outstanding state and national parks in the country. Also the coast is only a few hours drive if a person wants to escape the heat. As Bluesmama pointed out the weather is generally quite pleasant most of the year. Winters can be socked in with low tule fog and summers are often quite hot [some of the hottest weather in the U.S. outside the deserts] but the humidity is lowest when the temperature is at its highest and nights are great for swimming and bbq's. Lots of good memories.
And as FresnoFacts points out, the Central Valley really isn't all that conservative since most of the large cities & towns with universities vote Democratic.
I know I make fun of the Central Valley as being boring but sometimes being boring is OK, too [for a little while anyway
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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I think your assessment is quite fair and provides a broader picture of what the Central Valley is. Driving down the 99 freeway gives the person a look at California unlike the rest of the state. Literally miles and miles of fruit and nut orchards\ every kind of vegetable imaginable\ rice\ cotton and, yes, cattle. But the cattle country is mostly by Interstate 5 where when you drive by a cattle yard the smell is immediate. But the Harris Ranch near Coalinga has some of the best steaks in California if you stop at their restaurant. It seems the entire valley is super-productive when you consider oil wells also.
I know it can be boring when all the radio stations seem to be in Spanish or some evangelical preacher or right-wing political nuts. But there is an ESPN station in every large town so you can listen to sports talk from Bakersfield to Redding!
The Sierra Nevada is only an hour away for the most part with some of the most outstanding state and national parks in the country. Also the coast is only a few hours drive if a person wants to escape the heat. As Bluesmama pointed out the weather is generally quite pleasant most of the year. Winters can be socked in with low tule fog and summers are often quite hot [some of the hottest weather in the U.S. outside the deserts] but the humidity is lowest when the temperature is at its highest and nights are great for swimming and bbq's. Lots of good memories.
And as FresnoFacts points out, the Central Valley really isn't all that conservative since most of the large cities & towns with universities vote Democratic.
I know I make fun of the Central Valley as being boring but sometimes being boring is OK, too [for a little while anyway
Believe me, "boring" can be way better than just "O.K."! After a lifetime of living in "stimulating" urban areas, one learns to appreciate the simple pleasures, such as leisurely shopping at the local Costco without having to aggressively "compete" for a parking space, or driving home where "rush hour" traffic amounts to 3 pickups lined up behind the little old lady headed for her "Over-55" Retirement Community!
Although the "price" sometimes includes looking at all those dam stickers on the back, with stuff like "Palin in 2012", "I'm a roper, not a doper", or "Caution: in case of Rapture this car will be unmanned"!
Believe me, "boring" can be way better than just "O.K."! After a lifetime of living in "stimulating" urban areas, one learns to appreciate the simple pleasures, such as leisurely shopping at the local Costco without having to aggressively "compete" for a parking space, or driving home where "rush hour" traffic amounts to 3 pickups lined up behind the little old lady headed for her "Over-55" Retirement Community!
Although the "price" sometimes includes looking at all those dam stickers on the back, with stuff like "Palin in 2012", or "Caution: in case of Rapture this car will be unmanned"!
Please, continue to wow us with the open-mindedness living on the coast has given you
I think your assessment is quite fair and provides a broader picture of what the Central Valley is. Driving down the 99 freeway gives the person a look at California unlike the rest of the state. Literally miles and miles of fruit and nut orchards\ every kind of vegetable imaginable\ rice\ cotton and, yes, cattle. But the cattle country is mostly by Interstate 5 where when you drive by a cattle yard the smell is immediate. But the Harris Ranch near Coalinga has some of the best steaks in California if you stop at their restaurant. It seems the entire valley is super-productive when you consider oil wells also.
I know it can be boring when all the radio stations seem to be in Spanish or some evangelical preacher or right-wing political nuts. But there is an ESPN station in every large town so you can listen to sports talk from Bakersfield to Redding!
The Sierra Nevada is only an hour away for the most part with some of the most outstanding state and national parks in the country. Also the coast is only a few hours drive if a person wants to escape the heat. As Bluesmama pointed out the weather is generally quite pleasant most of the year. Winters can be socked in with low tule fog and summers are often quite hot [some of the hottest weather in the U.S. outside the deserts] but the humidity is lowest when the temperature is at its highest and nights are great for swimming and bbq's. Lots of good memories.
And as FresnoFacts points out, the Central Valley really isn't all that conservative since most of the large cities & towns with universities vote Democratic.
I know I make fun of the Central Valley as being boring but sometimes being boring is OK, too [for a little while anyway
Bro, if Grantline Road is still there off hwy 99 close to Stockton, it is a shortcut to get to hwy 50 going to Lake Tahoe.
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Please, continue to wow us with the open-mindedness living on the coast has given you
Brave enough to actually make a point there "Yoda", or are you just "trolling"? Or maybe it's not such a surprising judgment coming from someone who frequently complains re: "feminazism", Cali "ghettos", and feels qualified to judge who's an "outsider" here and who's "hip enough"...
Brave enough to actually make a point there "Yoda", or are you just "trolling"? Or maybe it's not such a surprising judgment coming from someone who frequently complains re: "feminazism", Cali "ghettos", and feels qualified to judge who's an "outsider" here and who's "hip enough"...
Youre the one trying to stereotype an entire region of people, not me. You made your bed, now lay in it. Quit being a child, you will gain some perspective once you are much older.
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