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Old 07-21-2010, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Pasadena
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The city council of Sebastopol will consider a smoking ban in apartments that includes not only tobacco but also marijuana. This would be the strictest anti-smoking regulation in California. Is it going too far?

"Sebastopol to consider smoking ban in apartments


The city of Sebastopol will consider revisions to its smoking ordinance Tuesday that would make it one of the toughest in the Bay Area, extending a smoke-free umbrella to apartment dwellers.

“We already don't permit smoking in public parks and playgrounds and what-have-you,” said City Manager Jack Griffin. “This ordinance is not all that much different, but it adds a whole new dimension of multi-family dwellings.”
The revised ordinance would include marijuana in its ban, regardless of whether it is medically prescribed or if recreational marijuana use is approved by California voters in November".
Sebastopol to consider smoking ban in apartments | PressDemocrat.com
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:16 AM
 
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I used to live above a couple of two-fisted smokers and it was disgusting. My apartment regularly smelled like stale smoke and they actually set off MY smoke alarm one night. There should have been a smokers building where they could all smoke themselves to death away from the rest of us.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:31 AM
 
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The smoking Nazis ... as well as, Green Nazis, food Nazis, other types of Nazis.

Freedom is under threat.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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The smoking Nazis ... as well as, Green Nazis, food Nazis, other types of Nazis.

Freedom is under threat.
Why should my home smell like an ashtray for someone else's freedom? If they want freedom, they should buy a house. Part of living in attached housing is having a little consideration for your neighbors.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Why should my home smell like an ashtray for someone else's freedom? If they want freedom, they should buy a house. Part of living in attached housing is having a little consideration for your neighbors.
The apartment smoking ban in Sebastopol and several other affluent CA suburbs is a PC way of keeping out nonwhites and illegals under the guise of "health" so no one will be smeared as "racist".

Ethnic cleansing, affluent white CA style.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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The apartment smoking ban in Sebastopol and several other affluent CA suburbs is a PC way of keeping out nonwhites and illegals under the guise of "health" so no one will be smeared as "racist".

Ethnic cleansing, Marin style.
ROFL. White people don't smoke?
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:46 AM
 
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ROFL. White people don't smoke?
It's not meant to be applied against whites. (Remember, technically SB 1070 could be used against non-Hispanic whites, too, but I highly doubt it will.)

And while plenty of whites smoke, most of those are not the kind of whites who are clamoring for these laws, who support those laws, and who are implementing those laws. It's about class control, too. Ironic because much of Sonoma County is still very traditional California but the busy-bodies and do-gooders are making their way north.
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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I tend to agree with the Sebastopol ordinance, if it passes and isn't challenged in court. Second-hand smoke is horrible and unhealthy. If someone wants to smoke in their apartment they should be forced to purchase an air filtration system or smoke outside. But even smoking outside is subject to regulation since many California cities prohibit smoking in parks\ beaches. I hate to be walking behind someone who is smoking.
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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I tend to agree with the Sebastopol ordinance, if it passes and isn't challenged in court. Second-hand smoke is horrible and unhealthy. If someone wants to smoke in their apartment they should be forced to purchase an air filtration system or smoke outside. But even smoking outside is subject to regulation since many California cities prohibit smoking in parks\ beaches. I hate to be walking behind someone who is smoking.
What if the Sebastopol ordinance is deliberately used in a racially/ethnically discriminatory manner?

Remember, SB 1070 on paper is not ethnically or racially discriminatory.....(although I don't support that either)
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:43 PM
 
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What if the Sebastopol ordinance is deliberately used in a racially/ethnically discriminatory manner?

Remember, SB 1070 on paper is not ethnically or racially discriminatory.....(although I don't support that either)
I'm not sure I understand. Are ethnic and racial minorities heavier smokers than Anglos? I am asking because I have never heard that certain minorities are more likely to smoke than other groups. Plus, my sense is that marijuana smokers are just as likely to be white as black and brown.
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