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Old 09-28-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: USA
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LOL part of 19 says you can grow up to 25 sq ft of plants in your back yard, no taxes are going to made LOL
Cause everyone in CA has a yard. Plus it takes time, effort, & money to grow the right way. Most prefer to leave it to the pros.
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Old 09-28-2010, 02:50 PM
 
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I do not think one should vote yes or no based on possible taxes
I do not think one should vote yes or no based on use
I think it is imperative to vote yes, to reduce the price to make it uneconomical for the Mexican cartels to grow on our public lands, thus creating danger to each and every user of our public lands and creating an environmental nightmare on our public lands by pesticide use, trash, human wast, miles of plastic pipe, and fertilizers.

These people have been responsible for wildfires, including the 80,000 acre LaBrea Fire in Santa Barbara Country started by a grower cooking fire.

These people have also learned that they can reduce evidence by lighting the forest on fire after harvest and burning the area.

The Prop may be imperfect, it may be highly flawed, but it is the best way so far to reduce the foot print of the illegal mexican cartels growing weed on your land.
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Old 09-28-2010, 03:16 PM
 
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I predict the federal government will step in to prevent the commercial sale of cannibis. What's more of an issue here, IMHO, is that the federal government has too much power over the states. I will vote in favor of 19 though I have no real belief my vote will matter given the federal involvement in this.
I agree 100%
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Old 09-28-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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Cause everyone in CA has a yard. Plus it takes time, effort, & money to grow the right way. Most prefer to leave it to the pros.
A 25 sqft garden will grow a lot of weed to share or sell to your friends and weed is easy and cheap to grow outdoors no harder than anything else.
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Old 09-28-2010, 03:45 PM
 
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A 25 sqft garden will grow a lot of weed to share or sell to your friends and weed is easy and cheap to grow outdoors no harder than anything else.
You have experience? Do tell.
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Old 09-28-2010, 03:58 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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A 25 sqft garden will grow a lot of weed to share or sell to your friends and weed is easy and cheap to grow outdoors no harder than anything else.
I actually have the contrary belief. If people could just walk into their corner market and pick up a few joints they would pass on growing their own at home. the fact that you either have to get a prescription and find a nearby dispensary (which wasn't even an option until the last few years) or call up your neighborhood drug dealer make growing at home an easier option for some people. and if you think about it, growing tobacco and making alcohol aren't that difficult either. they're also not cheap to buy in the stores, but that's where everyone I know gets their cigs and booze.
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:30 PM
 
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You have experience? Do tell.
I'm over 50 years old, I've smoked and grown plenty of weed in my time growing outdoors is simple, no differant than anything else, good soil, water, plenty of sun and trim it back, indoors with grow light may be much harder I dont know, I never tried it. Where I lived a lot of people had nice sized vegtable gardens corn and tomatos tend to be the best places to plant, it helps hide the plants.
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:36 PM
 
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I actually have the contrary belief. If people could just walk into their corner market and pick up a few joints they would pass on growing their own at home. the fact that you either have to get a prescription and find a nearby dispensary (which wasn't even an option until the last few years) or call up your neighborhood drug dealer make growing at home an easier option for some people. and if you think about it, growing tobacco and making alcohol aren't that difficult either. they're also not cheap to buy in the stores, but that's where everyone I know gets their cigs and booze.
It's a little harder to make booze than it is to grow some weed but neverless The control and tax cannabis act doesn't even have a taxation element in it.
i din't think it has a chance passing until legal and taxation issuse are added and described how they would be handled.
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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I'm over 50 years old, I've smoked and grown plenty of weed in my time growing outdoors is simple, no differant than anything else, good soil, water, plenty of sun and trim it back, indoors with grow light may be much harder I dont know, I never tried it. Where I lived a lot of people had nice sized vegtable gardens corn and tomatos tend to be the best places to plant, it helps hide the plants.
The problem with growing your own weed outside is that people steal them. Imagine that many people grow their own marijuana and even more will if it is legalized but for lots of people it is more convenient to just buy bud at dispensaries.
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Old 09-28-2010, 07:46 PM
 
Location: California
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The problem with growing your own weed outside is that people steal them. Imagine that many people grow their own marijuana and even more will if it is legalized but for lots of people it is more convenient to just buy bud at dispensaries.
I think people will have a lot of choices where to get it, grow it, buy from someone who grows it, buy from the cartel or pay the most from a legal store.
The bill says you can have 1 ounce but 25 sq ft will grow much more than that. Yeah people may be jumping in yards to steal a guys plants but it is easy to grow and all ya gotta have is a bad attitude dog.
Personally I think it is written very poorly, I don't see near enough details about how laws will need to be changed or how it will be taxed, I think it will fail by not passing or the feds will step in and shut it down. It needs more work.
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