Please think before legalizing it ..... (Los Angeles, Pasadena: to buy, camp, taxi)

[1200RT]

... Please?

He's a Train Wreck behind the wheel - latimes.com


[quote]He's a Train Wreck behind the wheel

In the name of science, the columnist smokes, giggles and drives. Watch out at traffic lights.

Steve Lopez

October 20, 2010


The man in the uniform had a question for me. "How do you feel?" CHP Sgt. David Nelms asked. His interest in my health was probably prompted by the fact that I was at that moment toking a joint stuffed with a bud called Train Wreck.

Pretty good, I said, already buzzed enough to wonder if this was really happening.

In my youth, I spent more than a few evenings hoping the police weren't keeping close tabs on my activities. So it felt a bit strange last week to have a group of cops paw my marijuana stash and then ask me to get high.

MOD CUT

[Charles]

I don't think anyone is advocating driving while impaired. Legalizing weed isn't the same as legalizing driving while bonging.

[JS1]

Originally Posted by 1200RT

... Please?

He's a Train Wreck behind the wheel - latimes.com

If the legalization of driving while impaired were on the ballot, then you would have a point. But it isn't, so it's nice that the cops are actually doing this study, since they have to enforce the law which isn't changing with regard to driving while impaired.

BTW, this made me LOL:

Next, Tilden and I were escorted to a bluff at the edge of the training center where we could light up without risking a contact high for the assembled peace officers.

A contact high outdoors? That's a myth! Silly cops!

[1200RT]

I agree with you. I dont think anyone is advocating that either.

I do think, however, that making it legal to buy/posses will increase the chances of people "driving while bonging".

[Roaddog]

Originally Posted by 1200RT

I agree with you. I dont think anyone is advocating that either.

I do think, however, that making it legal to buy/posses will increase the chances of people "driving while bonging".

I completly agree and I base it on having friends and relatives who don't drink and drive but they smoke the weed and drive all the time because according to them it's just not the same, they think the weed does not impair them.

[BRinSM]

Originally Posted by Roaddog

I completly agree and I base it on having friends and relatives who don't drink and drive but they smoke the weed and drive all the time because according to them it's just not the same, they think the weed does not impair them.

correlation does not imply causation. just because weed may become legal does not mean that more people will drive while high. i'd like to see research that shows that driving while stoned will see any kind of significant increase if weed was to be legalized.

[californio sur]

I heard Steve Lopez of the LA Times interviewed on the radio; he already smokes marijuana for some medical situation and the cannabis the LAPD gave him to smoke was super potent weed. Never-the-less, it is not advised that people drive while under the influence of any kind of drug that effects reactions.

The police and federal government are pressing hard on California voters to not legalize weed. The federal drug czar was in Pasadena today urging citizens to vote no. But when he spoke about how dangerous and addictive marijuana is he totally lost credibility. The drug czar also said that taxing marijuana will not help California out of its budget problems. These scare tactics make many people angry and are provoking more voters to legalize marijuana just to prove to the federal government that they don't know what they are talking about!

[Rhenzanite]

Originally Posted by JS1

If the legalization of driving while impaired were on the ballot, then you would have a point. But it isn't, so it's nice that the cops are actually doing this study, since they have to enforce the law which isn't changing with regard to driving while impaired.

BTW, this made me LOL:



A contact high outdoors? That's a myth! Silly cops!

I went to an outdoors Snoop Dogg concert a while back.

Trust me, contact highs are possible outdoors.

[Roaddog]

Originally Posted by BRinSM

correlation does not imply causation. just because weed may become legal does not mean that more people will drive while high. i'd like to see research that shows that driving while stoned will see any kind of significant increase if weed was to be legalized.

All I can comment on is what I see and everybody I know who smokes weed drives under the influence and think it is nothing compared to drinking.

[Highnlite.]

La Brea fire burns 80,000 acres of your public land. Started by a Mexican Cartel illegal grower cooking fire.
Thousands of acres of your public land, too dangerous to hike or camp in due to the Mexican Cartel growers.

CHP helicopter take automatic weapons fire will scouting for illegal grows, on your public land.

Sequoia National Park Rangers warned to stay out of entire watersheds within the park, your public land, due to illegal growers armed with automatic weapons

Hikers chased out of your public land by armed growers.

Responders to the Station fire in Los Angeles last year see growers fleeing the flames.

Mop up crews on the Station fire in Los Angeles last year saw growers returning to their plantations through the ashes and smoke of the fire.

Hundreds of miles of plastic pipe abandoned on your public land by illegal Mexican growers

Tons of pesticides applied to your public land by illegal Mexican growers

Tons of trash left on your public land by illegal Mexican growers.

The illegal Mexican growers are not bad men, are not criminals, they are victims. Often they are ethnic indians, chosen for their small size, the better to navigate the chapparal. Their families held hostage by the cartels to insure performance, if the crop is raided and lost, the families are killed.

This proposition may be imperfect, but it provides the best chance yet to rid our public lands of the illegal grows.