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Old 02-15-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Mokelumne Hill, CA & El Pescadero, BCS MX.
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Yeah everyone should leave CA. I hear it's lovely in North Dakota this time of year.
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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you put some numbers in, but, no context, are you stating personal income, family income, real estate prices?

Here is my quibble with your numbers, They bring up the old saw, "figures can lie and liars can figure"

I don't see Beverly Hills on your list.

and I came up with my own competing numbers
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Number of places by state in the top 100 income per capita: California 23, New York 11, Illinois 9, Florida 9, Connecticut 6, New Jersey 6, Texas 6, Colorado 4, Michigan 4, Ohio 3, Maryland 2, Minnesota 2, Missouri 2, Pennsylvania 2, Tennessee 2, Washington 2, Arizona 1, Delaware 1, Kansas 1, Kentucky 1, Massachusetts 1, Oklahoma 1, Virginia 1. Twenty-seven states do not have any places in the top 100.
Rank Place Per Capita
Income Number of
Households
1 Rancho Santa Fe, California
2 Atherton, California
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Old 02-15-2011, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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These figures are more a reflection of the effects of 8 years of Bush and 7 years of Arnold have had on this state. Republicans stink, which is why they were soundly rejected in CA in the last election. A brighter future awaits.

The state is on the mend, and we now have good people in place. President Obama and Jerry Brown. Buzz off, Pubs!
Again blaming Bush!! You do know that Arnold ia a Dem right? He's frikkin married to into the Kennedy clan, so to blame him as a Republican is flawed.

Where did you hear we are on the mend? Moonbeam just came out last week with a mandatory tax hike proposal (he said he wouldn't raise taxes). He is indeed holding his hand out for a Fed bailout (also something he said he'd not do, I said he would), and were you even here the first time around with Jerry? I was, and he was/is a flip flopping nightmare.

Didn't you get a clue when he fired all the school reformers and then tried hiring Honig the embezzler? He instantly backed off because of the uproar. He thought all the old Californians were dead or gone and all that was left were people like you.

New blaze:
"For Brown and the unions, the most pressing goal is to make sure teachers are well compensated, have great insurance, and maintain a large clientele of students who are trapped in neighborhood schools by their zip code," said Kyle Olson, CEO of Education Action Group.

"Many of those neighborhood schools are awful, but we really have to wonder whether Brown cares about that at all. The unions scratched his back at election time, now he's scratching theirs. The political game has run its natural course in California, and the children are the clear losers." -end

And another thing! While he was Mayor, Oakland became the 5th most dangerous city in the country. Yet he ran on his ability to lower crime! "Are people that stupid" Jerry thought to himself. WTH, I'll bet they are. He was right.

Hold out your hand or open your wallet because that is the only choice you'll have very shortly.

On the mend... you must be from SF or Berkely

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Old 01-30-2012, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Is ca really broke or is it just hype by the politicians to get more money by raising taxes, fees & cutting essential services for the poor, disabled & seniors ? One thing for sure is the public unions run ca.
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:56 AM
 
Location: In Transition
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Yeah everyone should leave CA. I hear it's lovely in North Dakota this time of year.
Ironically, that's exactly what someone I know, who was born and raised in CA, has done. He and his family didn't want to, but was forced to.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:06 AM
 
Location: In Transition
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These figures are more a reflection of the effects of 8 years of Bush and 7 years of Arnold have had on this state. Republicans stink, which is why they were soundly rejected in CA in the last election. A brighter future awaits.

The state is on the mend, and we now have good people in place. President Obama and Jerry Brown. Buzz off, Pubs!
After your buddy Obama cuts the military budget and the Pentagon has to find new ways to cut the defense budget, I don't think Californians realize just how much this may impact this state. The impact hasn't begun to hit yet, but if things don't change, there will be cuts somewhere in CA. Open your eyes and take a look at how many bases / contractors / etc. work in CA. Heck, some counties get practically half or more of their income from local bases.

Ironically, the same people who b*tch about the military-industrial complex will be the same people who get laid off because their defense contractor employed neighbor down the street couldn't frequent their store anymore...
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:08 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Um...news flash, the whole freaking Western Hemisphere is broke. Personally, I'm staying put here for now as I don't see why I'd be better off in any other state. I'm fortunate to have a pretty good thing going right now.
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:28 AM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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After your buddy Obama cuts the military budget and the Pentagon has to find new ways to cut the defense budget, I don't think Californians realize just how much this may impact this state. The impact hasn't begun to hit yet, but if things don't change, there will be cuts somewhere in CA. Open your eyes and take a look at how many bases / contractors / etc. work in CA. Heck, some counties get practically half or more of their income from local bases.

Ironically, the same people who b*tch about the military-industrial complex will be the same people who get laid off because their defense contractor employed neighbor down the street couldn't frequent their store anymore...
And you probably rail on interminably about people on welfare who are actually getting a tiny amount of the welfare money lavished on the military.

We spend more on national offense, the military budget, than the next 20 nations COMBINED. We simply don't need that for defensive purposes, we could easily make do with one-third the amount, that's why it's really welfare for the military contractors who surround the Capitol with capital.

That money could be used for universal health care (as ALL the other industrialized nations have) or any number of humanitarian purposes where the money spent would hire even MORE people than the military-industrial complex uses!

I might see a neighbor lose a job on a bomb factory assembly line, but I'd see 3 people hired as nurse's aides, insulin production, mental health worker, etc.
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Is ca really broke or is it just hype by the politicians to get more money by raising taxes, fees & cutting essential services for the poor, disabled & seniors ? One thing for sure is the public unions run ca.

It is broke and these folk are the reason why, according to conservative thought. Liberals would simply say it's because everyone isn't paying their fair share of taxes. I'm conservative so I lean toward the former reason not the later.
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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I'm liberal bordering on socialist, and I'd say it's a combination of some public pensions paying out an unrealistic amount, plus property taxes being kept lower than other states by a state constitution that's almost impossible to change, needing a 2/3rd supermajority.
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