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Old 11-12-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I used to be so opposed to them. But I've seen first hand some of the success they've had in Oakland and now Im an ardent supporter.

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"This is an extraordinary time in the history of charter schools in California, as we are seeing unparalleled growth as the result of parents and communities clamoring for more choices," said Jed Wallace, president and chief executive of the organization, in a statement issued today. "We have surpassed expectations, and it’s a clear sign of the change in the education landscape our state is experiencing."

“This is an extraordinary time in the history of charter schools in California, as we are seeing unparalleled growth as the result of parents and communities clamoring for more choices,” said Jed Wallace, President and CEO of the CCSA. “We have surpassed expectations, and it’s a clear sign of the change in the education landscape our state is experiencing.”

California Leads Nation in New Charter Schools - Pulse of the Bay - The Bay Citizen
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:10 PM
 
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and you keep bringing the great news Montclair! Thanks.

The trolls should be in here shortly......
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:56 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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It's nice to see people doing something about our atrocious public school system. Given the quality of or public schools and the corrupt teachers union, its no wonder we are seeing so many charter schools, we need them.
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:20 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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It's nice to see people doing something about our atrocious public school system. Given the quality of or public schools and the corrupt teachers union, its no wonder we are seeing so many charter schools, we need them.

The problem is beyond the union. It starts at the top, with the legislature and the voters, then down to the administration, then the principles, then its the union. Cut off the head, and the body will die.

also another problem with charters is that the majority of them are often just as crappy as the local public schools. this is actually where i agree with the union. most of the charters are utter failures and are robbing the union of much needed money.

than you have the fact that the good charters and the magnet schools are so selective that your kid has a better chance of getting into the local catholic school than those places.

look at american indian charter in oakland. good charter system, but they are highly selective. and they go to the point of recruiting. they go into the local schools in the laurel and diamond district and recruit middle class and working class asian students because they know they have high test scores and cant afford afford private schools. they know these parents once they get beyond the neighborhood school primary level are desperate to get their kids out of mainstream oakland unified before high school.

or west campus magnet high school in sac. its so selective its basically a public college prep. kids have to have high grades, community service, no discipline issues, sports, and test scores evaluated, letters of rec. etc.


the best solution is simply to privatize the system. abolish all k-12 public schools. use the tax dollars per pupil spent in each district and give it to the parents for a voucher. statistics already have shown that private schools spend less money per student and yeild much better results. it would be the reform we need, with accountability, and it would create a vibrant education industry in the private sector.
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:19 AM
 
Location: RSM
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also another problem with charters is that the majority of them are often just as crappy as the local public schools. this is actually where i agree with the union. most of the charters are utter failures and are robbing the union of much needed money.
But charter schools are much easier to reform if they do not pan out. Lack of unions means it's much easier to clean house if you feel you need to.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Earth
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But charter schools are much easier to reform if they do not pan out. Lack of unions means it's much easier to clean house if you feel you need to.
Correct.

And even the "crappy" charters don't have problems with violence and gangs like crappy public schools do, because they can kick out disruptive students easier.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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State's budget fakery takes a toll on charter schools - latimes.com
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