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Old 11-18-2010, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Yeah, its a shame Bill White wasn't elected governor. Probably the best mayor Houston ever had and very savvy.
I'm not sure Houston residents are that convinced. White barely beat Perry 50/48 in Harris county. I think White is a credible man, but his fiscal record in Houston is VERY mixed. He shifted money for pensions to other areas. He spent lavishly but added significantly to Houston's debt. His reputation as a friend of illegal immigrants also hurt him.

The current mayor of Houston, a Democrat and lesbian, has openly complained about Houston's fiscal condition when she took office.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I'm not sure Houston residents are that convinced. White barely beat Perry 50/48 in Harris county. I think White is a credible man, but his fiscal record in Houston is VERY mixed. He shifted money for pensions to other areas. He spent lavishly but added significantly to Houston's debt. His reputation as a friend of illegal immigrants also hurt him.

The current mayor of Houston, a Democrat and lesbian, has openly complained about Houston's fiscal condition when she took office.
+1

Just goes to show that you can't judge a book by its cover!
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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The new Houston mayor won the office on a platform of fiscal responsibility. She is highly respected (at least so far) and it goes to show that Texas is not the "redneck Bibleland" that California Sur thinks it is.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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you want to know why people love California? Because its beautiful, diverse, and open minded. It is always going to draw people whether you like it or not. I don't hate Texas, but to put it bluntly, Texas doesnt have those things the way California does. Texas has 2 or 3 diverse cities, but California has at least 8 or 9. Texas has some natural beauty, but you cannot find the mountains, beaches, and deserts on the level that you can in California. You wont find Yosemite, the Redwood Forrest, the Riveria geography of the Coast line, or the proximity of them to each other. Texas has a few cities that are open minded, but most of Texas (outside the Major cities) is extremely closed minded. California does a much, much better job overall of welcoming you no matter who you are.

California will never be down for long. If prices come down, people will start moving there in droves. Who wouldnt want to live where you can have the beaches, mountains, forrests, and deserts close by while having 70 degree weather year round?
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:00 PM
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Yes, California has nicer weather and more varied geography than Texas -- so what! Are we talking about a vacation or a place to live?

When you live somewhere, not just go there on vacation, you also have to consider the CA taxes, stupid regulations (gun control, global warming, plastic bag bans, happy meal bans, etc.), and millions of mexicans.
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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you want to know why people love California? Because its beautiful, diverse, and open minded. It is always going to draw people whether you like it or not. I don't hate Texas, but to put it bluntly, Texas doesnt have those things the way California does. Texas has 2 or 3 diverse cities, but California has at least 8 or 9. Texas has some natural beauty, but you cannot find the mountains, beaches, and deserts on the level that you can in California. You wont find Yosemite, the Redwood Forrest, the Riveria geography of the Coast line, or the proximity of them to each other. Texas has a few cities that are open minded, but most of Texas (outside the Major cities) is extremely closed minded. California does a much, much better job overall of welcoming you no matter who you are.

California will never be down for long. If prices come down, people will start moving there in droves. Who wouldnt want to live where you can have the beaches, mountains, forrests, and deserts close by while having 70 degree weather year round?
Liked it that much did you?

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Old 11-18-2010, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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you want to know why people love California? Because its beautiful, diverse, and open minded. It is always going to draw people whether you like it or not. I don't hate Texas, but to put it bluntly, Texas doesnt have those things the way California does. Texas has 2 or 3 diverse cities, but California has at least 8 or 9. Texas has some natural beauty, but you cannot find the mountains, beaches, and deserts on the level that you can in California. You wont find Yosemite, the Redwood Forrest, the Riveria geography of the Coast line, or the proximity of them to each other. Texas has a few cities that are open minded, but most of Texas (outside the Major cities) is extremely closed minded. California does a much, much better job overall of welcoming you no matter who you are.

California will never be down for long. If prices come down, people will start moving there in droves. Who wouldnt want to live where you can have the beaches, mountains, forrests, and deserts close by while having 70 degree weather year round?
I won't argue that California is an attractive place for all the reasons you suggest. I have been to most of those places. Get real about California weather. It is sensational in many places. But 70 degrees year round? Not in San Francisco. Not in LA. Not in Sacramento. Certainly not in many of the areas people can afford to buy a house.

If everyone wanted what California had - why do more than 10 million people live in NYC? They have cold weather, hot humid summers, little green space, crazy cost of living, lots of noise, no place to ride a bike for fun, etc.

I think California's open-minded-ness is overstated. A great example is San Francisco. It is no more open-minded than Atlanta (or Houston). They are no more tolerant of other views than almost any other large metro. Texas per se isn't closed minded. You guys think it is. Texas has a strong culture that binds people more strongly than in many other areas. But that doesn't mean they won't listen to new ideas. Is Texas as welcoming as California to people "no matter who they are?" Probably not. But Texas is not like the south governed by Jesse Helms.

When prices come down people will move to CA in droves? I have my doubts. People have to earn a living. Cheaper housing makes that easier, but they need jobs. I'll remind you that more Americans leave California than move in and it has been happening for twenty years.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara
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Can anyone imagine having to move to Texas because of a job? How many people say, "hell no" to the idea of moving to redneck Bibleland. I'm sure most would rather be unemployed than move to a state like Texass!
I had a friend who did make that move. Two years later she is back. She HATED Texas with a passion. She still works for the company (for another couple of months) but got them to agree to let her work from California since her job requires loads of travel.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:52 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:10 PM
 
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lol Texans came running to this thread as usual. Get over yourselves.
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