Texas Economy as Bad as California (foreclosure, unemployment rate, organic)

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by californio sur

Texas represents the quintessential Republican state: Bible-belt ignorance coupled with anti-social pathology. As the article states: Texas could cares less for its citizens, the environment or infra-structure if it means raising taxes. So how is it going to get out of the mess it has created for itself? And Republicans like Nutmeg Whitman praised Texas as an example for California!

Im a native Californian and love the state, but you're out of your mind. You are just incorrect on virtually every point, I dont even feel like addressing them.

[BacktoBlue]

Originally Posted by californio sur

Texas represents the quintessential Republican state: Bible-belt ignorance coupled with anti-social pathology. As the article states: Texas could cares less for its citizens, the environment or infra-structure if it means raising taxes. So how is it going to get out of the mess it has created for itself?

Texas is not my favorite state at all, but what was the point of this thread? It seems like it's just here to bait responses from Texans.

Texas is so sucessful because it's cheap as hell.

They claim they are business friendly and they are but the property taxes are through the roof.

The people who flee to Texas from California do so because they aren't wealthy enough to live here. They have even said that it's because they can afford to live there. It can be a negative for Texas though because poor people could live there for cheap and basically do nothing productive to the Texas economy. California will ALWAYS be better than Texas in terms of diversity, cities, cultures, weather, scenery, outdoor activities, and endless beauty. Texas may be doing better than us with their economy but California still comes out on top for everything else. So let's let Texans think they are number one but we all know what state people would rather live in if they could afford to.

if the price of living in CA was the same as Texas, everyone would flee to here and probably those who were forced to move to Texas would come back. Then we would have way too many people, so be thankful that this place is only for the upper middle and the rich classes.

I never understood why people flee to Texas when there are 48 other states they can move to. Colorado is way more beautiful than Texas as well as many other states. it's just because Texas is cheap cheap cheap!

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by BacktoBlue

I never understood why people flee to Texas when there are 48 other states they can move to. Colorado is way more beautiful than Texas as well as many other states. it's just because Texas is cheap cheap cheap!

I think because it's also in the sun belt. That has to be about the only other reason, unless you're actually a Texan.

There are other states as cheap or cheaper but they have this little known (in much of CA) phenomenon called "weather" or "four seasons."

[BacktoBlue]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

I think because it's also in the sun belt. That has to be about the only other reason, unless you're actually a Texan.

There are other states as cheap or cheaper but they have this little known (in much of CA) phenomenon called "weather" or "four seasons."

That does make sense. I would move to Arizona before Texas personally.

People claim that Texas has blue cities. As far as I know, Houston and Austin are the only democratic cities. am I right?

Anyway they reelected Rick Perry and I read their GOP agenda and it's pretty awful and biggoted so I don't believe it when they say it's turning blue.

Plus isn't Dallas, San Antonio and Fort Worth heavily red cities?

[californio sur]

Originally Posted by BacktoBlue

Texas is not my favorite state at all, but what was the point of this thread? It seems like it's just here to bait responses from Texans.

Texas is so sucessful because it's cheap as hell.

They claim they are business friendly and they are but the property taxes are through the roof.

The people who flee to Texas from California do so because they aren't wealthy enough to live here. They have even said that it's because they can afford to live there. It can be a negative for Texas though because poor people could live there for cheap and basically do nothing productive to the Texas economy. California will ALWAYS be better than Texas in terms of diversity, cities, cultures, weather, scenery, outdoor activities, and endless beauty. Texas may be doing better than us with their economy but California still comes out on top for everything else. So let's let Texans think they are number one but we all know what state people would rather live in if they could afford to.

if the price of living in CA was the same as Texas, everyone would flee to here and probably those who were forced to move to Texas would come back. Then we would have way too many people, so be thankful that this place is only for the upper middle and the rich classes.

I never understood why people flee to Texas when there are 48 other states they can move to. Colorado is way more beautiful than Texas as well as many other states. it's just because Texas is cheap cheap cheap!

The point of this thread is to educate some Californians who tout Texas as a good example for California to follow. As I mentioned before, Whitman cited Texas as a standard she would use if elected governor. The Texas governor laughed that he made trips to California in order to steal companies away from the Golden State to relocate in the Lone Star state. Some Texans intentionally posted threads on the California forum to belittle California as a failed economy while bragging about Texas supposed successes.

BTW, I have never posted anything on the Texas forum. To go into another state's forum just to provoke is poor taste in my opinion. But I stand by my opinion of Texas; a state where "creationism" is mandated into school textbooks and where they execute more people than all other states in the nation and then realize that some of them were innocent! Google Texas' governor and prepare to vomit.

[BacktoBlue]

Originally Posted by californio sur

The point of this thread is to educate some Californians who tout Texas as a good example for California to follow. As I mentioned before, Whitman cited Texas as a standard she would use if elected governor. The Texas governor laughed that he made trips to California in order to steal companies away from the Golden State to relocate in the Lone Star state. Some Texans intentionally posted threads on the California forum to belittle California as a failed economy while bragging about Texas supposed successes.

BTW, I have never posted anything on the Texas forum. To go into another state's forum just to provoke is poor taste in my opinion. But I stand by my opinion of Texas; a state where "creationism" is mandated into school textbooks and where they execute more people than all other states in the nation and then realize that some of them were innocent! Google Texas' governor and prepare to vomit.

Yes, that guy who supposedly lives in France is always bashing California and praising Texas. The reason his threads aren't deleted on the General US board is because the moderation of that board is by a Texan.

Yeah Creationism is a load of crap and there is a reason seperation of church and state exsists. All religion should stay out of schools and state politics imo. Schools can have a bible club as long as they associate AFTER or BEFORE school but not during school hours. Evolution can be backed up and is the only way Sociologists can teach.

creationism in my opinion is all a fairy tale made up and believed by the religious.

[hoffdano]

Originally Posted by californio sur

Texas represents the quintessential Republican state: Bible-belt ignorance coupled with anti-social pathology. As the article states: Texas could cares less for its citizens, the environment or infra-structure if it means raising taxes. So how is it going to get out of the mess it has created for itself? And Republicans like Nutmeg Whitman praised Texas as an example for California!

That article is commentary, nothing more. You - as usual, overstate the influence of the Bible on Texas politics. If would rely less on what you read on the internet you would know that reality is quite different.

I always chuckle a bit when writers highlight spending per pupil as if it is a useful predictor of education quality. These measures are never adjusted for cost of living (just like comparisons of teacher salaries) so our lower cost of living is never considered when evaluating metrics like that. The poster child for poor schools with high spending is Wash. DC - which at varying times is at the top of spending, yet has some of the very worst schools in the US.

I would bet you that Texas erases its budget deficit faster than California, with less overall pain.

[ZhugeLiang]

Oh, it's a Paul Krugman opinion piece. Nothing to see here people, move along.

I swear, this guy has never been right about anything.

[californio sur]

Originally Posted by hoffdano

That article is commentary, nothing more. You - as usual, overstate the influence of the Bible on Texas politics. If would rely less on what you read on the internet you would know that reality is quite different.

I always chuckle a bit when writers highlight spending per pupil as if it is a useful predictor of education quality. These measures are never adjusted for cost of living (just like comparisons of teacher salaries) so our lower cost of living is never considered when evaluating metrics like that. The poster child for poor schools with high spending is Wash. DC - which at varying times is at the top of spending, yet has some of the very worst schools in the US.

I would bet you that Texas erases its budget deficit faster than California, with less overall pain.

You, in-fact, may be right and I would be surprized if Texas doesn't "erase" its deficit faster than California. But my statements about Texas' influence by the Bible belt is well-known. Nonetheless, Texas is struggling just like if not worse than many other states which should suggest that it's fiscal policies are not the solid by any means.

[ZhugeLiang]

Originally Posted by BacktoBlue

Texas is not my favorite state at all, but what was the point of this thread? It seems like it's just here to bait responses from Texans.

Texas is so sucessful because it's cheap as hell.

They claim they are business friendly and they are but the property taxes are through the roof.

The people who flee to Texas from California do so because they aren't wealthy enough to live here. They have even said that it's because they can afford to live there. It can be a negative for Texas though because poor people could live there for cheap and basically do nothing productive to the Texas economy. California will ALWAYS be better than Texas in terms of diversity, cities, cultures, weather, scenery, outdoor activities, and endless beauty. Texas may be doing better than us with their economy but California still comes out on top for everything else. So let's let Texans think they are number one but we all know what state people would rather live in if they could afford to.

if the price of living in CA was the same as Texas, everyone would flee to here and probably those who were forced to move to Texas would come back. Then we would have way too many people, so be thankful that this place is only for the upper middle and the rich classes.

I never understood why people flee to Texas when there are 48 other states they can move to. Colorado is way more beautiful than Texas as well as many other states. it's just because Texas is cheap cheap cheap!

This from someone who complained about "biggotry" in another post?

Curious and curiouser. This must be some of that famous West Coast tolerance and open-mindedness I keep hearing about.

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