Obama Care raising insurance rates in California- Thank's Barry (business, increase)

[Reason42]

Originally Posted by Brenda-by-the-sea

In other words, 42 isn't a high enough quotient of "reason" to refute the above post! Nothing is more discouraging to the conservative world view than a barrage of facts.

Wow... To my knowledge, I have never engaged in name calling on this board... ...I prefer to discuss the topics and tangents... oh, well.

...nice try, but I was trying to discuss the issue. Would you care to? ...or maybe, just toss in another attack...

...actually, truth. I give up. We will all get what we deserve... A few will be able to by better health care. It's just sad to see how easily poor decisions are accepted... ...not even rationalized, just accepted.

[goodneighbor1234]

Originally Posted by TimC2462

My folks went from paying 800 dollars a month for California Blue Cross to 1500 in just two years.

The premium rate increased started back in 2007, and long before the healthcare reform was voted.

Be careful... some people believe that everything bad started when Obama became president. To tell them otherwise would conflict with the brainwashing that Rush has been so successful doing.

[.highnlite]

I am a bit surprised at the increases. My mother who is very old and in very poor health has had no increase in the past 5 years, she pays bout $600 a month for Anthem.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

I am a bit surprised at the increases. My mother who is very old and in very poor health has had no increase in the past 5 years, she pays bout $600 a month for Anthem.

Now, highnlite, are you being facetious? $600/month for a retired and quite elderly person is affordable? How does your mother do it?

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by Reason42

... We will all get what we deserve...

"Deserve" is an anthropomorphic concept of a moral universe -- not a causative force ... You'll get what you get, whether you deserve it or not.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it ..." (-- Clint Eastwood, "Unforgiven")

[.highnlite]

Now, highnlite, are you being facetious? $600/month for a retired and quite elderly person is affordable? How does your mother do it?

She doesn't have money worries, she married well.

[.highnlite]

That post of mine could be seen as facetious, her house is paid for, no mortgage, good investments..

[yeahthatguy]

Oh how I love low-tax FL soo much :
Judge strikes down Obama healthcare law | Reuters

Judge Roger Vinson, a Republican appointee, said that the law's requirement to carry insurance or pay a fee "is outside Congress' Commerce Clause power, and it cannot be otherwise authorized by an assertion of power under the Necessary and Proper Clause. It is not constitutional."
.....
"I must reluctantly conclude that Congress exceeded the bounds of its authority in passing the Act with the individual mandate. That is not to say, of course, that Congress is without power to address the problems and inequities in our health care system. The health care market is more than one sixth of the national economy, and without doubt Congress has the power to reform and
regulate this market. That has not been disputed in this case. The principal dispute has been about how Congress chose to exercise that power here," Vinson wrote.

"Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire act must be declared void," he wrote.

[ZhugeLiang]

Originally Posted by Brenda-by-the-sea

a barrage of facts.

Your personal opinion doesn't count as fact. Please learn the difference.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Brenda-by-the-sea
"a barrage of facts"

Originally Posted by ZhugeLiang

Your personal opinion doesn't count as fact. Please learn the difference.

You quoted what this poster said out of context. She was referring to a list of what the government provides...which was, indeed, a list of facts.