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[Curmudgeon]

It's being considered already by Nobama and company. By all means, let's take benefits away from Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines who are serving 3-4 or more tours of duty in combat zones. That'll keep those 'cruits coming.

But then again, most of them are in the Army which, according to you, is where only the dummies serve so they likely won't even notice, right?

[CarawayDJ]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

You guys know there is a government department where all employees get 30 days paid vacation a year, free medical care, free housing, free meals, all paid for by the taxpayers. They shop at subsidized stores, and get great retirement after 20 years, don'tcha?

Seems to me we could do some cutting there...

Your computer must be acting up. Somehow the last part of your post didn't make it though.... The part that said "and of course they deserve it, because they are defending America and getting shot at..."

For the record, I support similar retirement plans for law enforcement and firefighters. I most certainly do not support such retirement benefits for someone who spent 20 years in DMV...

[CarawayDJ]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

It's being considered already by Nobama and company. By all means, let's take benefits away from Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines who are serving 3-4 or more tours of duty in combat zones. That'll keep those 'cruits coming.

But then again, most of them are in the Army which, according to you, is where only the dummies serve so they likely won't even notice, right?

I would wager he did 4 and out and had so many problems in there that he is now disgruntled... It's easy to spot those types. You know, he thought he shouldn't take orders from inferior leaders.... blah blah blah.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

But then again, most of them are in the Army which, according to you, is where only the dummies serve so they likely won't even notice, right?

Woke ole curmie up.. and who is the Caraway dude, one of those 20 year guys with a permanent crook in his finger from holding a coffee cup?

Save a million here and a million there and pretty soon we have saved a whole bunch of money.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Woke ole curmie up.. and who is the Caraway dude, one of those 20 year guys with a permanent crook in his finger from holding a coffee cup?

Someone else for you to belittle who's obviously onto you.

[CarawayDJ]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Woke ole curmie up.. and who is the Caraway dude, one of those 20 year guys with a permanent crook in his finger from holding a coffee cup?

Save a million here and a million there and pretty soon we have saved a whole bunch of money.

No, not 20 years. But long enough to have booted a few folks out. I can spot the type a mile away. Some people aren't cut out for military service. That's OK...unless they dedicate their lives to bashing the military afterwards. Just accept it wasn't for you and move on.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by CarawayDJ

No, not 20 years. But long enough to have booted a few folks out. I can spot the type a mile away. Some people aren't cut out for military service. That's OK...unless they dedicate their lives to bashing the military afterwards. Just accept it wasn't for you and move on.

You won't find me bashing the military, sorry to crush your rightwing paranoid fantasy. I did my time, and I did it honorably. I had a good time protecting you against the real enemy, and my uniform still hangs in my closet.

Do I tease the Army, sure, my old man was in it, (in a real war) and he teased me unmercifully for joining the Navy, but, at least neither of us were in the Air Farce

Curmie has never gotten on, his military service was his glory days,, as he mentions time after time. How about you? Still pine for the green days?

I do try to let young men know that there is a path to manhood that they can take, that is much more manly than the military, and the pay is better, and the food is better, it is a hell of a lot harder...... And that is where I spent most of the last 40 years.

[esmith143]

Originally Posted by CarawayDJ

Your computer must be acting up. Somehow the last part of your post didn't make it though.... The part that said "and of course they deserve it, because they are defending America and getting shot at..."

For the record, I support similar retirement plans for law enforcement and firefighters. I most certainly do not support such retirement benefits for someone who spent 20 years in DMV...

Would you agree to give all those benefits only to people who actually set foot in a combat zone, then?

I don't have anything against defending America, I just don't see why we need 11 aircraft carriers to do it (more than all other navies in the world, combined), and need them so badly that we're trying to get the taxpayers finance building 3 more. I don't see why we need to spend more than the GDP of Australia to build and maintain a fleet of 2500 supersonic stealth F-35's, none of which will, in all likelihood, ever see combat. And maybe we could defend America with less than 2 million active-duty personnel.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

You won't find me bashing the military, sorry to crush your rightwing paranoid fantasy. I did my time, and I did it honorably. I had a good time protecting you against the real enemy, and my uniform still hangs in my closet.

Do I tease the Army, sure, my old man was in it, (in a real war) and he teased me unmercifully for joining the Navy, but, at least neither of us were in the Air Farce

Curmie has never gotten on, his military service was his glory days,, as he mentions time after time. How about you? Still pine for the green days?

I do try to let young men know that there is a path to manhood that they can take, that is much more manly than the military, and the pay is better, and the food is better, it is a hell of a lot harder...... And that is where I spent most of the last 40 years.

Yeah! Sure you encourage youth. The only problem is, you think the Navy and the Marine Corps are the only services of worth. Tell that to the Air Force pilots and ground crews who provided close air support (that's ground combat support in case you don't know what that means) and the Army grunts, tankers, Rangers, Green Berets, cannon cockers and others who did multiple combat tours back in the day, and the many days since.

As for my service of 12 years, preceded by almost 20 as a military brat (a total of half my life in fact), you're the one who brought it up, Bozo. That two of my service years were in hostile fire zones must be inconsequential to you. "A real war?" Let me educate you, as you're fond of touting. Any time you're subject to incoming your war is real. Guess you didn't experience that.

Manhood? You clearly know nothing of it as you disparage those who serve in our armed forces.

You can't clean this one up with sly references, bad jokes or attempts to belittle those of us who have served under hostile fire, Clarks. Your Little Lord Fauntleroy status doesn't mitigate your arrogance or excuse your hubris.

[.highnlite]

It is interesting that America spends more on defense than every other country in the world put together.

I do like your idea, typically no more than 10% of any military sees combat, 90% are in the rear with the gear, this adjusts somewhat in a guerrilla war, but, the vast majority of military members never get shot at.

Manhood? You clearly know nothing of it as you disparage those who serve in our armed forces

grow up, get a life.

I love babies, I really enjoyed raising mine, one of the worlds manlier jobs.