Welcome back affirmative action in education (private schools, colleges, taxi)

[user_id]

Originally Posted by ZhugeLiang

Thank you for unwittingly proving my point.

Oh, no problem. But seriously, understand terms before you use them.

[ZhugeLiang]

Originally Posted by user_id

Oh, no problem. But seriously, understand terms before you use them.

A "scientific" study isn't necessarily science, genius.

[Curmudgeon]

Well, as Mark Twain so sagely suggested, "Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please."

[user_id]

Originally Posted by ZhugeLiang

A "scientific" study isn't necessarily science, genius.

A scientific study isn't science? Umm....huh? What is with the scientific illiteracy here? Science is an empirical method of discovery, if someone tests a hypothesis empirically using cogent methods they are doing science.

[ZhugeLiang]

Originally Posted by user_id

A scientific study isn't science? Umm....huh? What is with the scientific illiteracy here? Science is an empirical method of discovery, if someone tests a hypothesis empirically using cogent methods they are doing science.

One study doesn't pass the scientific method. But someone as scientifically literate as yourself should have known this.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by ZhugeLiang

One study doesn't pass the scientific method. But someone as scientifically literate as yourself should have known this.

Someone that is scientifically literate would know that saying that "one study doesn't pass the scientific method" makes no sense at all....

Regardless, there are far more than one study on this topic, its been rigorously studied over the years.

[jsucat22]

Are we to promote and aid the hispanic population thru affirmative actiion until they are above 50% of the population? If the hispanic population in Californai is 35-40%, do we still have to say they are miniorities? There are millions here in California now. Let them stand on their own accomplishments. Enough of this convoluted liberal reasoning. I'm afraid what we are really doing is trying to fix Mexico. Since little assimilation is going on, we will not achieve the goals of affirmative action. We will just change the standards and the whole of the southwest will decline.

[yeahthatguy]

Originally Posted by Bay City

What a funny thread, you have racists exposing themselves and stupid liberals who think an entire city is the ghetto. City-Data where racist right wingers and Liberals argue back and forth about who's less racist.

Trolling is a fine art .. Being ignorant just like a closet racist to get them to rage is fun sometimes... If someone doesn't get what's wrong w/ idiotic generalizations, it's most easiest to troll them w/ one about themselves and see how they like it..

I'm glad you enjoyed this thread... I sure did

[Doctor Blues]

Originally Posted by user_id

Trying to help disadvantaged groups is the worst form of discrimination?

Stymying the best because they're not minorities is discrimination.

[esmith143]

Originally Posted by Doctor Blues

Stymying the best because they're not minorities is discrimination.

True. It's also been illegal for the last 15 years, courtesy of Proposition 209. SB 185 can't overrule a voter-approved amendment.

But is it also discrimination for the UC to pick an inner-city student from a failing school over an extensively tutored private-school student with the same SAT & GPA?

Is it appropriate for the UC to be blind to the circumstances of its applicants' education, such as household income? Or should it be allowed to recognize that, all things being equal, a lower-income student is likely end up with worse grades and test scores than an equally capable wealthy student?