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Old 09-06-2011, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Life expectancies are based on many things and genetics plays a big role in it. CA crappy labs do not.
California has a diverse population and its largest minority group has lower than average life expectancy so......this like everything you say is just an excuse with no merit.

You claim that California has a poor medical system, yet it has one of the highest life expectancy despite a large low income immigrant population. Obviously....there is something wrong with your story.

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I am a blood transfusion specialist who does consulting in the Bay Area.
Right..basically a mid-skilled medical career yet you speak as if you have some real authority on the topic. Just post some data that supports your claims....
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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California has a diverse population and its largest minority group has lower than average life expectancy so......this like everything you say is just an excuse with no merit.
I don't have to make excuses for the ****ty lab standards in CA...that has nothing to do with me!


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You claim that California has a poor medical system, yet it has one of the highest life expectancy despite a large low income immigrant population. Obviously....there is something wrong with your story.
No I claimed that CA laboratory CLS professionals have very poor technical skills and are very non-compliant. Talk to any lab director out there and they will tell you the story of how this shift in standards occurred.

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Right..basically a mid-skilled medical career yet you speak as if you have some real authority on the topic. Just post some data that supports your claims....
Wrong again. Houston has one of the best medical centers in the world. The Texas Medical Center but yet it has a shorter life expectancy then CA. The Texas Medical Center has the highest standards that I have ever come acoss in my career. THat is why coming here and seeing these labs is such a hugh shock. Texas also has a very large low income immigrant population...so there is nothing at all wrong with my story...there is something wrong with your ability to think and reason.

Not hardly a mid skilled medical career and yes I do have authority in my profession...that is why I am out here as a consultant. The data that I have is confidential and will violate HIPPA law. If you really want to know how low the standards in the labs are in CA then I suggest that you either become an FDA inspector, a CAP inspector, Joint Commission inspector or an AABB accredited inspector.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Wrong again. Houston has one of the best medical centers in the world. The Texas Medical Center but yet it has a shorter life expectancy then CA.
Wrong about what? I didn't say anything about Houston and just in case you weren't aware, Houston makes up just a small part of Texas. You know, sorta like how the bay area makes up a small fraction of California.

The purpose of mentioning the life expectancy in California is to note some actual data that conflicts with your story. You are free to post some data that corroborates your claims about California, until then you're just full of hot air.

By the way, I have no doubt that there are some poorly maintained labs in California as well as any other state. The question is whether, on average the conditions in California are worse than other states. Your personal experience in a few institutions in select areas of two states doesn't tell you anything here......but logic doesn't seem to be your strong point.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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Wrong about what? I didn't say anything about Houston and just in case you weren't aware, Houston makes up just a small part of Texas. You know, sorta like how the bay area makes up a small fraction of California.

The purpose of mentioning the life expectancy in California is to note some actual data that conflicts with your story. You are free to post some data that corroborates your claims about California, until then you're just full of hot air.

By the way, I have no doubt that there are some poorly maintained labs in California as well as any other state. The question is whether, on average the conditions in California are worse than other states. Your personal experience in a few institutions in select areas of two states doesn't tell you anything here......but logic doesn't seem to be your strong point.

Your so funny! You have no logic at all. In a few institutions? What are you talking about? I have been in every single lab in the Bay Area, Central Valley and in the far North Bay. The Texas Medical Center is made up of 49 institutions. I have also been to almost every lab in Utah...pretty nice labs there!

Houston is the major medical hub for Texas if you did not know that already. Actually the Texas Medical Center is a world class institution with patients from all over this planet. Get a clue...you don't know what your talking about

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Old 09-06-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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I have been in every single lab in the Bay Area, Central Valley and in the far North Bay.

Do you actually think anybody is going to believe this?

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Houston is the major medical hub for Texas if you did not know that already. Actually the Texas Medical Center is a world class institution with patients from all over this planet.
To say it once more, I didn't say anything about Houston. Rather, I provided data that conflicts with your assertion that the medical system in California is poor. To say it once more, you are free to cite some serious data on the topic instead of supplying large amounts of hot air.

But you are going to believe whatever you want to believe so this is pointless.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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Do you actually think anybody is going to believe this?

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To say it once more, I didn't say anything about Houston. Rather, I provided data that conflicts with your assertion that the medical system in California is poor. To say it once more, you are free to cite some serious data on the topic instead of supplying large amounts of hot air.

But you are going to believe whatever you want to believe so this is pointless.

Do you want me to post my miles and expense accounts to prove it?

Dito on all that you are saying to me...
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Nope, just let me know when you've got some serious data to cite.
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:24 AM
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"Talent" is perhaps best defined by one's pay/net worth (adjusted for age)...not silly "rankings" by dying OldMedia (a bunch of low-IQ, low-income English majors doing the ranking no less)

Perhaps most of world's wealthiest engineers live/work in PaloAlto area
Many of highest achievers are college dropouts or attended crappy undergrads somewhere (consider goog co-founders); many grew up outside CA or US...and in era when any smart 10yo can self-teach CS via Kindle, coding on own, social media interaction w/engineers in SV, etc etc, the relevance of any formal education is increasingly dubious, beyond brand value or as a union card for retards who need endless "formal" education/spoonfeeding

And best CS depts in world each graduate ~250 kids/yr from undergrad; so top 10% of grads of top 5 CS depts are only ~125 kids/yr...thus, lots of morons produced annually by Stanford/Berkeley, etc non-CS (and CS)

Ironically, upscale housing/premium land in Woodside area is no more costly than comparable housing in Medina or Austin or Dallas' PrestonHollow (if anything Woodside is cheaper per acre of land)....so the absurd COL arguments have no value to any highly paid software engineer with a basic sense of arithmetic logic

Not surprisingly, shrewd kids opt for first jobs in PaloAlto area (not Redmond area) to maximize career liquidity to move onward to another BigTech or start-up as career progresses

Aside from MSFT and AMZN, what has Redmond/Seatt created in past 20+ yrs??? And what has Austin created in past 25+yrs post ancient box-assembler Dell?? And what tech cos. of note have been created in Bos in past 25+yrs???

Self-selection of engineers occurs throughout careers as some rise quickly in income/net worth and have no need/desire to ever leave PaloAlto region...and others who can't compete in PaloAlto region flee for allegedly "cheaper" places for lower-skill/pay jobs...natural selection of a Darwinian industry built upon creative destruction and constant creation of smart, hungry 19yo engineers who seek to displace older slugs in their career path...and talent tends to flow to wherever are the greatest economic and intellectual opportunities...one must first achieve economic freedom before attaining intellectual freedom
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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hsw....don't you get sick of making the same "bay area tech nerds are the greatest" post again and again?
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:39 AM
 
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"Talent" is perhaps best defined by one's pay/net worth (adjusted for age)...not silly "rankings" by dying OldMedia (a bunch of low-IQ, low-income English majors doing the ranking no less)

Perhaps most of world's wealthiest engineers live/work in PaloAlto area
Many of highest achievers are college dropouts or attended crappy undergrads somewhere (consider goog co-founders); many grew up outside CA or US...and in era when any smart 10yo can self-teach CS via Kindle, coding on own, social media interaction w/engineers in SV, etc etc, the relevance of any formal education is increasingly dubious, beyond brand value or as a union card for retards who need endless "formal" education/spoonfeeding

And best CS depts in world each graduate ~250 kids/yr from undergrad; so top 10% of grads of top 5 CS depts are only ~125 kids/yr...thus, lots of morons produced annually by Stanford/Berkeley, etc non-CS (and CS)

Ironically, upscale housing/premium land in Woodside area is no more costly than comparable housing in Medina or Austin or Dallas' PrestonHollow (if anything Woodside is cheaper per acre of land)....so the absurd COL arguments have no value to any highly paid software engineer with a basic sense of arithmetic logic

Not surprisingly, shrewd kids opt for first jobs in PaloAlto area (not Redmond area) to maximize career liquidity to move onward to another BigTech or start-up as career progresses

Aside from MSFT and AMZN, what has Redmond/Seatt created in past 20+ yrs??? And what has Austin created in past 25+yrs post ancient box-assembler Dell?? And what tech cos. of note have been created in Bos in past 25+yrs???

Self-selection of engineers occurs throughout careers as some rise quickly in income/net worth and have no need/desire to ever leave PaloAlto region...and others who can't compete in PaloAlto region flee for allegedly "cheaper" places for lower-skill/pay jobs...natural selection of a Darwinian industry built upon creative destruction and constant creation of smart, hungry 19yo engineers who seek to displace older slugs in their career path...and talent tends to flow to wherever are the greatest economic and intellectual opportunities...one must first achieve economic freedom before attaining intellectual freedom


So, a person of true intelligence is one who works 12-14 hour days under a cube wall in order to live a lifestyle in Palo Alto that is similar to one that can be afforded by a garbage man in a cheaper state. I don't call that being a genius .... I call that being a sucker/idiot.

A person of intelligence would make max salary and (cash out) to some place cheaper ... Spending a small portion of their lives working such slavish hours at max payout and spending the larger portion out of such insanely inflated areas enjoying/exploiting the difference in COL.

As for the 'hackers' w/o degrees, they are as carpenters are to architects.
True Software Engineering requires a great deal of mathematics/algorithms and formal education in how to correctly write/architecture overal code.

Sure, there are a few Einstens but if you believe the broad majority can self-teach in order to become one, you must be living under a rock.

A lot of the top talent in the heart of the valley aren't from California ... But, then again, that doesn't stop people like you from believing that just being
in the valley somehow makes them who they are.

As for Einstens only congregating here .. Tell me what's innovative about a silly iphone fart app? Right now people are selling such b.s startups for $5-10 million (2-3 man shops) ... How smart is it for a person who is working a salaried job designing next generation CPU pipelines to compete which such dumb money? It isn't smart at all.. Yet, an outsider, would look upon the transactional exchange of money in this small pocket of the world, and make the assumption that real talent is displacing lower quality talent.. Being unknowing of the large amount of dumb VC money (existing from those who made out rich in the housing/financial bubble) that is thrown around like dollar bills at a strip club... Save your Darwinian claptrap for the nerd propaganda pamphlet you handout to naive college grads to get them to come here and pay $3/4k a month for a hole in the wall studio apartment w/o A/C.

Things change in life. Nothing stays the same forever. Only a moron believes in such fantasy.
And, at some point, unjustified inflated premiums cause people to take a step back and asses true value. At this moment, bubbles pop.
As I recall, this is not a foreign concept to the 'amazing' silicon valley.


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