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Old 09-12-2011, 06:42 PM
 
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I disavow any allegiance to any group other than hunter-gatherer pygmies and neanderthals ... however, just observationally, I respectfully disagree with what you posit in this case ... Other than the anti-war protesters of the 60's / 70's, conservatives consistently bellyache and cry foul in great measure more than liberals. This is not a statement from my personal view supporting liberal ideals ... that is for a different argument ... this is just observing the way it is. Conservatives bellow like foghorns ... like buffalo stuck in mud ... like "danger! danger, Will Robinson!"
Selective observation on your part. We all have our filters, but we only notice other people's. Yeah, I know, you're thinking "I'm not like that. I'm objective". Yeah, yeah.....

 
Old 09-12-2011, 07:46 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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I read it. Some of us actually enjoy reading well thought out commentary.
Me too, whenever I find some.

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Other than the anti-war protesters of the 60's / 70's, conservatives consistently bellyache and cry foul in great measure more than liberals.
It is because they are "victims" of the "Boogeyman". Everything is the Boogeyman's fault.

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Sheer fantasy. Both men are viewed as inspirational by conservatives. And lest you forget again, it is Tea Party.

Only to those who pay no attention to what they stood for; Goldwater;
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He was firmly pro-choice, a supporter of gay rights and, in his later years, said that he thought it was okay for gays to serve in the military.

Fundamentally, it’s clear that Barry would not have been comfortable with the increasing influence of the Christian right over the GOP. My grandfather would have been appalled by the whole political grandstanding of the Terri Schiavo mess.
Reagan, not only tripled the deficit but
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Federal government expanded on his watch. The conservative desire to outlaw abortion was never seriously pursued. Reagan broke with the hardliners in his administration and compromised with the Soviets on arms control. His assault on entitlements never materialized; instead he saved Social Security in 1983. And he repeatedly ignored the fundamental conservative dogma that taxes should never be raised.



The Democratic Party has been taken over by far left extremists, and sad to say, that is where it sits today.

You can say that, just as you can say that red wine is applesauce, but there is no evidence that either is true.

Compared to whom? Leon Trotsky or Mao Tse Tung?

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Obama has not appointed (to his top economic positions) even one economist that comes close to believing in liberal or center-left economic positions.
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Obama is essentially a centrist. His world view cannot be easily consigned to the familiar categories of left and right. In fact, those categories have been obsolescent since George W. Bush effectively nationalized the banks and Obama won the nomination on a center-right cultural platform. No matter how simplistic competing cable networks try to make things, when you have a Republican president behaving like a European socialist and a Democratic president who opposes gay marriage and has added troops to Afghanistan, you are living in a volatile ideological age.
Really, Gold

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Is it not possible that BOTH illegal immigrants (and those who pander to them) and the financial industry have done a lot of damage to our country?
I find it odd, that adults who are apparently capable of making enough money to buy a computer cannot understand that the illegals are our 40 billion dollar Ag industry, and without them California would be in a serious depression.


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Old 09-12-2011, 08:07 PM
 
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I'll agree with you about the Democratic party shifting further to the left.

But you're dead wrong about the GOP not shifting further and further to the right.
If the liberals move more to the left then from their prospective the conservatives will seem more to the right
 
Old 09-12-2011, 08:08 PM
 
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Donnie, is that you?
No, I'm not like you where I have multiple persona's
 
Old 09-12-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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Yes donnie, as I said, the good politicians finally called a screeching halt to the socialist water schemes and the welfare farmers. You should be cheering.

Here is a funny factoid, we, that is the family farm, has been paying for California Aqueduct water for 50 years, and have yet to get a drop of it. Don't expect me to have any sympathy for the welfare farmers who got their taxpayer subsidized water turned off. Let them get their water from private sources and pay market prices for it.

It is also important to note, that while whackos have been screaming about the smelt, the smelt are not the problem. 38 million people and a drought and farmers planting like there was no drought are the problem.
Pure BS as usual.

We all know why the liberals up north have cut off the water supply to the central valley. It's because most of the people in the valley are conservatives and the liberals can't control them so they see an easy way to get rid of them. The majority of liberals are concentrated in the larger metro areas ... where all the welfare blood suckers exist and the liberal politicians ... This just shows how cruel and inhumane the liberals are to destroy peoples livelihood just for political gain and destroy hundreds of acres of prime farmland at the same time and driving up food prices due to the loss of product. Totally disgusting!
 
Old 09-12-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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Pure BS as usual.

We all know why the liberals up north have cut off the water supply to the central valley. It's because most of the people in the valley are conservatives and the liberals can't control them so they see an easy way to get rid of them. The majority of liberals are concentrated in the larger metro areas ... where all the welfare blood suckers exist and the liberal politicians ... This just shows how cruel and inhumane the liberals are to destroy peoples livelihood just for political gain and destroy hundreds of acres of prime farmland at the same time and driving up food prices due to the loss of product. Totally disgusting!
You see ... here it is again ... it is not possible ... I repeat: not possible, that Don9 is anything but a democratic plant to make the Tea-Party look beyond ridiculous ... this is script! ... this is hilarious ... the conspiracies presented! How absolutely delightfully funny! But it's not really fair to paint a picture quite so ignorant as this, is it? ... a picture so entirely devoid of even pretending to examine factual documentation and history? Devoid of any shred of logical analysis?
 
Old 09-12-2011, 08:33 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Fact, the water is taxpayer subsidized.
Fact, there isn't enough water in the west during drought times to meet all needs.
Fact, subsidized water makes for welfare farmers, much like the welfare ranchers on public land.

I don't suppose you bothered to read the quote I put in, from an expert, explains it well.

Now I know you prefer belief to fact, but isn't that attitude pretty juvenile?

I recommend you read this book if you want to move from unfounded belief to founded fact;
Amazon.com: Cadillac Desert: The American West and Its Disappearing Water, Revised Edition (9780140178241): Marc Reisner: Books
 
Old 09-12-2011, 08:43 PM
 
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Look at this ... quick responses ... within 5 minutes from my post ... did you even take a breath between posts? ... and you two clowns (or clown) are two minutes apart saying the same thing. I'm shocked ... what a coincidence

Enough of you liberal trolling ... Go away and troll another day ... far away ...
 
Old 09-12-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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Look at this ... quick responses ... within 5 minutes from my post ... did you even take a breath between posts? ... and you two clowns (or clown) are two minutes apart saying the same thing. I'm shocked ... what a coincidence

Enough of you liberal trolling ... Go away and troll another day ... far away ...
Well Donnie, you should be flattered to have two such erudite scholars hanging on your every word ... we wait in great anticipation for your posts ... you ARE the Mad Hatter ... and we are attending your tea-party! ... forget those knuckleheads that run around with the Queen of Hearts (Michelle Bachmann) ... highnlite and I are your greatest fans ... please tell us more from down the rabbit hole.

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.


"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!

etc etc etc
 
Old 09-12-2011, 09:07 PM
 
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If the liberals move more to the left then from their prospective the conservatives will seem more to the right
Then I guess you wouldn't mind if I say that the liberals seem more to the left because the conservative and moved further and further to the right.
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