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Old 09-23-2011, 03:37 PM
 
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How the hell did Capitola get a violent crime rate of 11.59?
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Old 09-23-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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All I know is that as an occasional visitor, I find downtown Oakland is MUCH more pleasant than downtown San Francisco.
What exactly do you like so much about it?
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Old 09-23-2011, 04:47 PM
 
Location: South Korea
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SF is dense and you can have one street that has among the grossest, most sordid blocks in the US, like Mission Street, just one block from a really lively, fun street like Valencia with lots of shiny new bars and restaurants and shops. While crime is concentrated in SF, everything is so close together that you get a lot of spillover. In Oakland you get large swathes of crappy parts then large swathes of nice parts, usually with a halfway decent part in between as a buffer zone.
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Old 09-23-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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My solution: The vast majority of us who live life uninterrupted by this madness, need to take up a collection and buy them bullets so these hoodlums can continue killing each other-good riddance.

Its not very popular with my neighbors.

Our city has been on a huge upswing over the past oh, 15 years and we have seen a huge influx of educated and wealthy folks, artists, restauranteurs, intellectuals, yuppies, hipsters etc, but this crime problem persists.

Ultimately I dont think families are taking account for their wayward sons, brothers, nephews, cousins etc.

The police is viewed antagonistically by too many folks, much of that is not totally unfounded btw, but at the end of the day, these are OUR streets and WE should be at the forefront of making sure they are safe.

Until Oaklanders themselves take the initiative to stop this, crime in the flatlands will continue, ironically, even as many of these crime ridden neighborhoods somewhat gentrify, become more family oriented and quite frankly more livable.

That said, its a shame that so many people only know our city by its crime ranking...there is so much more.

So true. Reminds me of a shooting this past weekend. Some guy tried to break into this older guy's home. He heard it happening, went and got his gun, shot the bastard in his head a couple of times. One less thug to deal with. I don't own a gun, and I am not usually this cold about killing another person, but apparently this thug had tried before.

Sometimes it's the only way. Oh, if we could really arm them to kill out each other, what a fine world we would have! This coming from a Liberal
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:26 PM
 
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The full list
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...alifornia.html
is only a one year snapshot, not a trend. But it is easy to work with by sorting at the top column names.

I was curious so I sorted it by population then looked at the 20 largest cities (the first page of the population sort) in descending violent crime per 1,000 residents order.

Oakland - (population 409,723) - 15.3
Stockton - (population 292,047) - 13.81
Sacramento - (population 472,469) - 8.7
San Bernardino - (population 199,214) - 8.15
San Francisco - (population 818,594) - 7.02
Modesto - (population 203,890) - 6.86
Bakersfield - (population 333,458) - 6.31
Fresno - (population 484,734) - 6.26
Long Beach - (population 462,267) - 5.88
Los Angeles - (population 3,841,707) - 5.59
Riverside - (population 301,859) - 4.8
Santa Ana - (population 340,240) - 4.44
San Diego - (population 1,313,433) - 4.28
Moreno Valley - (population 197,294) - 3.67
Anaheim - (population 338,492) - 3.43
San Jose - (population 970,252) - 3.31
Chula Vista - (population 229,060) - 2.89
Fremont - (population 205,477) - 2.37
Glendale - (population 196,877) - 1.41
Irvine - (population 217,193) - 0.55
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Old 09-23-2011, 09:58 PM
 
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What exactly do you like so much about it?
It doesn't smell of urine and isn't littered with schizophrenic homeless people for starters.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:02 AM
 
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How the hell did Capitola get a violent crime rate of 11.59?
That's what I'm wondering.
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Old 09-24-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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It doesn't smell of urine and isn't littered with schizophrenic homeless people for starters.
San Francisco is beautiful- from a distance. It is increasingly scruffy, tattered, stinky and chock full of homeless crazy people though I agree.

Those Oakland hills look like just this side of paradise to me. I'm not as familiar with downtown but it looks pretty decent to me, and the great neighborhoods all over Oakland are just a bit nicer than the ones in SF. I bet it's pretty easy to avoid the crime there.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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That's what I'm wondering.

Tourist areas always have high per capita crime. They get such an influx or non-permanent residents and crime numbers do not account for the fact that crime (and population) increase significantly seasonally.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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San Francisco is beautiful- from a distance. It is increasingly scruffy, tattered, stinky and chock full of homeless crazy people though I agree.

Those Oakland hills look like just this side of paradise to me. I'm not as familiar with downtown but it looks pretty decent to me, and the great neighborhoods all over Oakland are just a bit nicer than the ones in SF. I bet it's pretty easy to avoid the crime there.
Me too. Downtown Oakland is way safer. Incidents are actually pretty rare.

In SF there is a one block buffer between nice and sketchy. In Oakland, not so much. Nice areas are surrounded by nice areas, and sketchy areas are surrounded by sketchy areas.

I live in a nicer neighborhood (for the past 7 years). I can think of about 3 serious issues, and maybe a dozen less serious issues over the entire period. The worst thing that has happened to me is that someone takes my amazon packages a couple times a year.
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