Most Dangerous Cities In California.. (San Francisco, Oakland: crimes, layoffs, gated)

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Not seeing it on these lists - EPA's murder rate doubled since last year.

[KC6ZLV]

The article mentions a few cities that have high crime rates, but it is poorly written. First of all, "The East Bay city of Stockton...." This shows the author of the article is a few bricks short of a load. Then there is the question of what crime statistics. If I'm choosing where to live I'm going to make a big distinction between petty theft and meth labs. The article should have mentioned what kind of crimes are occurring in more than a few of those cities.

[sacramento916]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

My solution: The vast majority of us who live life uninterrupted by this madness, need to take up a collection and buy them bullets so these hoodlums can continue killing each other-good riddance.

Its not very popular with my neighbors.

Our city has been on a huge upswing over the past oh, 15 years and we have seen a huge influx of educated and wealthy folks, artists, restauranteurs, intellectuals, yuppies, hipsters etc, but this crime problem persists.

Ultimately I dont think families are taking account for their wayward sons, brothers, nephews, cousins etc.

The police is viewed antagonistically by too many folks, much of that is not totally unfounded btw, but at the end of the day, these are OUR streets and WE should be at the forefront of making sure they are safe.

Until Oaklanders themselves take the initiative to stop this, crime in the flatlands will continue, ironically, even as many of these crime ridden neighborhoods somewhat gentrify, become more family oriented and quite frankly more livable.

That said, its a shame that so many people only know our city by its crime ranking...there is so much more.

Let's face it. Oakland is only going to get better if it gentrifies. If the same people living in the crime ridden areas stay there, Oakland will remain the most dangerous city in CA.

Let's not skip around the obvious.

[sequoias]

I grew up in one of the most dangerous cities in California which is Oakland but I think I was lucky to live in one of the okay areas which isn't too bad at all.

[EclecticEars]

Originally Posted by sacramento916

Let's face it. Oakland is only going to get better if it gentrifies. If the same people living in the crime ridden areas stay there, Oakland will remain the most dangerous city in CA.

Let's not skip around the obvious.

It won't let me rep you, but you've stated the obvious.

[dculross]

Originally Posted by sacramento916

Let's face it. Oakland is only going to get better if it gentrifies. If the same people living in the crime ridden areas stay there, Oakland will remain the most dangerous city in CA.

Let's not skip around the obvious.

i disagree. why not try to help those people instead of misplacing them and kicking them out of their homes? a city with nothing but hipsters and yuppies is not how i envision a good place to live.

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by dculross

i disagree. why not try to help those people instead of misplacing them and kicking them out of their homes?

Well there's a novel idea. I wonder why that's never been tried in the past?

[sacramento916]

Originally Posted by dculross

i disagree. why not try to help those people instead of misplacing them and kicking them out of their homes? a city with nothing but hipsters and yuppies is not how i envision a good place to live.

Easier said then done. Unfortunately a lot of it has to do with family values, something you cant impose from the government.

[Carlite]

What's interesting about this recession overall is that crime hasn't gone up that much, compared to other recessions. There's much debate among criminologists as to why that is--right out to the theory that many would-be criminals were aborted instead of being born as unwanted and abused children!

Small towns may have high crime rates due to meth problems, which are widespread in rural California.

And yes, East Bay folk let's get that word out that Oakland is horrible and scary and dangerous! Then maybe we can keep rents down and get reservations at restaurants without all those pesky San Francisco foodies

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by Carlite

What's interesting about this recession overall is that crime hasn't gone up that much, compared to other recessions. There's much debate among criminologists as to why that is--right out to the theory that many would-be criminals were aborted instead of being born as unwanted and abused children!

Small towns may have high crime rates due to meth problems, which are widespread in rural California.

And yes, East Bay folk let's get that word out that Oakland is horrible and scary and dangerous! Then maybe we can keep rents down and get reservations at restaurants without all those pesky San Francisco foodies

I've seen some statistics supporting this observation too, and I have a few ideas as to why this may be the case:

- Lower reporting of minor crimes due to police layoffs, and citizens figuring what is the point of reporting stuff that won't be investigated

- Lower reporting due to the widespread implementation of on-line crime reporting, and folks deciding it isn't worth the effort unless filing an insurance claim

- Lower actual crime rates due to the widespread expansion of inexpensive portable amusement devices, such as data phones and tablets