Los Osos should incorporate into San Luis Obispo.... (Santa Cruz, Morro Bay: apartments, dorms)

[the city]

Since Los Osos Valley Road turns into Los Osos and the community has a sewage problem that is a never ending story, I think the smart move would be to incorporate all or part of the community into the neighboring city of San Luis Obispo. In the 1970s, it was talked that SLO would annex Los Osos one day.

And also there was talks of SLO incorporating Cal Poly SLO, but that is still in the talks. Santa Cruz has incorporated UC Santa Cruz, so it would be a similar situtation.

Los Osos includes 14,276 population and Cal Poly includes 6,896 population in the apartments and dorms. The city of San Luis Obispo includes 45,119 population.

All together it adds up above 70,000 populaiton. Most likely though is Cal Poly to incorporate apart of the city. Because SLO is already is similar to cities with 50,000 population. The population is there, but it's not included in the census.

[mountainman51]

Makes more sense to me that if Los Osos has to be incorporated then it and Baywood park should become part of Morro Bay.

[Shawn_Estrada]

Originally Posted by the city

Since Los Osos Valley Road turns into Los Osos and the community has a sewage problem that is a never ending story, I think the smart move would be to incorporate all or part of the community into the neighboring city of San Luis Obispo. In the 1970s, it was talked that SLO would annex Los Osos one day.

And also there was talks of SLO incorporating Cal Poly SLO, but that is still in the talks. Santa Cruz has incorporated UC Santa Cruz, so it would be a similar situtation.

Los Osos includes 14,276 population and Cal Poly includes 6,896 population in the apartments and dorms. The city of San Luis Obispo includes 45,119 population.

All together it adds up above 70,000 populaiton. Most likely though is Cal Poly to incorporate apart of the city. Because SLO is already is similar to cities with 50,000 population. The population is there, but it's not included in the census.

Ummm LAFCO would never allow it, nor would Los Osos residents ever vote for it (at least into SLO).

As for Cal Poly being annexed by the City, never. The UC/CSU enjoys autonomy in there land use and environmental decisions because they are a entity entitled to exemptions from local land use regulations. No UC/CSU has ever given that up. Very similar to School Districts around the state. Why would they give up the authority to exempt themselves from so many regulations?

[the city]

Originally Posted by Shawn_Estrada

Ummm LAFCO would never allow it, nor would Los Osos residents ever vote for it (at least into SLO).

As for Cal Poly being annexed by the City, never. The UC/CSU enjoys autonomy in there land use and environmental decisions because they are a entity entitled to exemptions from local land use regulations. No UC/CSU has ever given that up. Very similar to School Districts around the state. Why would they give up the authority to exempt themselves from so many regulations?

So Los Osos residents would rather be in Morro Bay? It's not even possible to go into Morro Bay because Morro Bay doesnt have the the infrastructure. SLO population threshold is at 56,000 population, but that could be increased. The city could increase their threshold to acommodate services farther out on Los Osos Valley Road.

[Shawn_Estrada]

Originally Posted by the city

So Los Osos residents would rather be in Morro Bay? It's not even possible to go into Morro Bay because Morro Bay doesnt have the the infrastructure. SLO population threshold is at 56,000 population, but that could be increased. The city could increase their threshold to acommodate services farther out on Los Osos Valley Road.

It's not about what you want, it is what each city can afford and how to pay for it. LAFCO requires for annexation:

a) more than 12 registered voters in a proposed annexation area must vote on annexation (fat chance)

b) Municipal Service Review (MSR) on how to pay for additional infrastructure needed to service residents, cost to dissolve districts (i.e. los osos water/sewer district), cost sharing agreements for up to 10 years with the county for property taxes/sales tax, etc.

Soooo knowing about Los Osos poop problem, what City in their right mind would bore the costs? Remember, an annexation, all rate payers cannot bore the cost of annexation, but rather, the residents themselves must foot the bill. Seriously, just do the math, from the outside of Los Osos to the nearest San Luis Sewer connection is about 50,000 LF. Sewer costs **generally** run about $1000/LF. That's 50 million dollars that Los Osos residents have a burden to pay for just the main trunkline at god knows how big (assuming at least 60-inches). That's not counting plant upgrades to accommodate the additional residents nor meter installations. The plant upgrade alone would be around $200 million because it is dumping into San Luis Creek and the facility has to be at least a tertiary level, no CEQA review, engineering costs, etc.

Man... get your facts strait before even proposing something like that in the real world.

[the city]

Originally Posted by Shawn_Estrada

It's not about what you want, it is what each city can afford and how to pay for it. LAFCO requires for annexation:

a) more than 12 registered voters in a proposed annexation area must vote on annexation (fat chance)

b) Municipal Service Review (MSR) on how to pay for additional infrastructure needed to service residents, cost to dissolve districts (i.e. los osos water/sewer district), cost sharing agreements for up to 10 years with the county for property taxes/sales tax, etc.

Soooo knowing about Los Osos poop problem, what City in their right mind would bore the costs? Remember, an annexation, all rate payers cannot bore the cost of annexation, but rather, the residents themselves must foot the bill. Seriously, just do the math, from the outside of Los Osos to the nearest San Luis Sewer connection is about 50,000 LF. Sewer costs **generally** run about $1000/LF. That's 50 million dollars that Los Osos residents have a burden to pay for just the main trunkline at god knows how big (assuming at least 60-inches). That's not counting plant upgrades to accommodate the additional residents nor meter installations. The plant upgrade alone would be around $200 million because it is dumping into San Luis Creek and the facility has to be at least a tertiary level, no CEQA review, engineering costs, etc.

Man... get your facts strait before even proposing something like that in the real world.

Oh well I guess it is not feasible.