White People are leaving the Golden State in a mass exodus (top school, college) - California (CA) - Page 13 - City-Data Forum

nullgeo · 11-13-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lauracore

5.4% is a lot when you consider the amount of whites in CA total. This white girl is leaving CA too. Won't miss the illegals, self-entitled retiree elitists who hire the illegals, overpopulation, and ridiculous cost of living.

Well, kiddo, I, for one, won't miss you a bit. If I loved white above all, I'd a stayed in Minnesota for the snow. As for the "ridiculous" cost of living: that depends on how you try to live ... doesn't cost me hardly a cent to enjoy all there is to love about California. You are apparently one of the masses addicted to the traditional lifestyles that try to emulate nobility. You are a slave to your own lack of imagination.

415_s2k · 11-13-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lauracore

5.4% is a lot when you consider the amount of whites in CA total. This white girl is leaving CA too. Won't miss the illegals, self-entitled retiree elitists who hire the illegals, overpopulation, and ridiculous cost of living.

I won't miss this white girl, either. Hopefully, a hot Asian one takes your place...

Seriously, though. Overpopulation? Do you live in the downtown core of SF or LA? Because there are many, many thousands of square miles throughout the state that are as low-density as you'll find in any other rural area in the US, and they're hardly expensive to live in.

Illegals? Psh. Go to anywhere in the US where there are farms, you'll find them, and the GOP/Tea Party libertarians who are absolutely happy to go ahead and hire them to work their fields.

yeahthatguy · 11-13-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nullgeo

Well, kiddo, I, for one, won't miss you a bit. If I loved white above all, I'd a stayed in Minnesota for the snow. As for the "ridiculous" cost of living: that depends on how you try to live ... doesn't cost me hardly a cent to enjoy all there is to love about California. You are apparently one of the masses addicted to the traditional lifestyles that try to emulate nobility. You are a slave to your own lack of imagination.

What is one's life in x is not another's . Something someone w/ awareness understands.. All people are trying to do is afford a home (not a mega mcMansion) in a nice school district to raise their kids and enjoy their family... some peace of mind and financial security.. Something a lot of older people who have already acquired this fail to appreciate .. Fail to appreciate the 'current' circumstances that people find themselves in.. And o'well, can't teach some older dogs new tricks

JanisBop22 · 11-13-2011, 01:44 PM

Too many illegals floodin the state that why!

yeahthatguy · 11-13-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 415_s2k

I won't miss this white girl, either. Hopefully, a hot Asian one takes your place...

Seriously, though. Overpopulation? Do you live in the downtown core of SF or LA? Because there are many, many thousands of square miles throughout the state that are as low-density as you'll find in any other rural area in the US, and they're hardly expensive to live in.

Illegals? Psh. Go to anywhere in the US where there are farms, you'll find them, and the GOP/Tea Party libertarians who are absolutely happy to go ahead and hire them to work their fields.

People try to refer to California's density metrics and claim it is not overcrowded.. Meanwhile they carefully ignore the huge swaths of land that are uninhabitable in California.. are desert.. are in bfe nowhere near civilization or jobs.. and claim these areas are 'inexpensive'.. LOL .. no reason to even reply to this. The main areas are about as dense as you can get.. traffic/commutes are insane.

Lets not make this about politics because politics are simply a dog and pony show used by the wealthy to distract the common populous and turn them against each other.. Wealthy farm owners the U.S over exploit illegal labor and utilize their many govt. lobbyist to get our govt. who is supposed to protect its citizens to side w/ this practice.. California has the U.S's largest concentration of illegals and is by far the state that caters to them the most .. So no, all states aren't created equal .. and I'm sorry.. but when I am FL enjoying a boxing match .. Whereby a mexican anthom is sung, a filipino anthem is sung, and then an American.. Nah, I am not faced w/ a room full of people who stand up and sing the mexican anthom aloud and then have the audacity to sit down during the American one and not utter a word of it...

California is a different place.. There are people in enclaves and points in their life far separated from the hustle and bustle whose perspectives don't count for squat because they are unable to look beyond their station and position and see that the vast majority don't live like them and are simply trying to (in their day to day) live an ever fleeting american dream especially in a state like California.

Move out .. branch out .. start businesses in places around the U.S .. 50 states to choose from .. and even if it weren't California and some other state.. the more people who pack into a place.. the higher the taxes and cost of living .. comfort and financial security are lost .. Very important things in a person's life... and no, you dont want locate yourself in bfe and commute 1.5 hours each way to get to work .. one of the big factors which contribute to divorce ..

nullgeo · 11-13-2011, 01:47 PM

"New tricks" for puppies are *yawns* for old dogs who knew every one of those tricks long ago. Old dogs know about being puppies. Puppies don't know squat about much except squat -- 'specially when they've spent all their time in a kennel and then obedience school and not out on the streets for years. Careful you don't get run over, Rover.

.highnlite · 11-13-2011, 02:15 PM

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Meanwhile they carefully ignore the huge swaths of land that are uninhabitable in California.. are desert.. are in bfe nowhere near civilization or jobs..

Huh, this young fellow does not know his geography, according to him no one can live in, Lancaster, Barstow, Palm Dale, Apple Valley, Palm Springs, Palm Desert, Bakersfield, or Los Angeles, since they are all in deserts.

The main areas are about as dense as you can get..
California has about 37 million people with roughly the land area of Japan. Japan has about 127 million people, roughly four times as many people as California, tough to say that CA urban areas are about as dense as you can get.

Wealthy farm owners the U.S over exploit illegal labor and utilize their many govt. lobbyist to get our govt. who is supposed to protect its citizens to side w/ this practice.

This young fellow apparently is not familiar with economics. He thinks the farm owners set the wages with government assistance apparently. Gee, that would be socialism I think. In the real world, the market sets wages. His arguments would make more sense if he understood that, and shortened his responses too.

Now, I can tell him, he won't listen, but I can tell him, American citizens won't do the work the illegals do, no matter the wage. Now, he may not understand that farmers are in business to turn a profit, so, let me give him a couple quick quotes:

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His ex-employees joined an exodus of thousands of immigrant field hands, hotel housekeepers, dishwashers, chicken plant employees, and construction workers who have fled Alabama for other states. Like Rhodes, many employers who lost workers followed federal requirements—some even used the E-Verify system—and only found out their workers were illegal when they disappeared.

In their wake are thousands of vacant positions and hundreds of angry business owners staring at unpicked tomatoes, uncleaned fish, and unmade beds. “Somebody has to figure this out. The immigrants aren’t coming back to Alabama—they’re gone,” Rhodes says. “I have 158 jobs, and I need to give them to somebody.”

There’s no shortage of people he could give those jobs to. In Alabama, some 211,000 people are out of work. In rural Perry County, where Harvest Select is located, the unemployment rate is 18.2 percent, twice the national average. One of the big selling points of the immigration law was that it would free up jobs that Republican Governor Robert Bentley said immigrants had stolen from recession-battered Americans. Yet native Alabamians have not come running to fill these newly liberated positions. Many employers think the law is ludicrous and fought to stop it. Immigrants aren’t stealing anything from anyone, they say. Businesses turned to foreign labor only because they couldn’t find enough Americans to take the work they were offering.

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A report on our Citizen wine grape picking crew. After a “Call to Arms” for local unemployed citizens to pick grapes that started in our monthly column in the Avila Community News and our blog inthevines.com, we were picked up by Cal Coast News, Lewis Perdue’s international “New Fetch” wine blog (you should get it if you want to know what is going on in the wine business worldwide), ‘Wines and Vines’, WineBusiness.com and by KSBY’s television newscast.
We had over 80 inquiries for the jobs. We had forty come in and fill out a five page application from which we picked 22 to come in for an interview with four of those not showing up. So we took the 18 remaining and started picking on a Wednesday. That day cost us over $500 a ton which is three times the normal. The next day it picked up a little.
We were becoming worried because we were getting behind as the Pinot Noir was quickly getting ripe. So we brought in one of our veteran documented crews on the third day. They (75 percent women) lapped the citizen crew. The fourth day was a Saturday and four of the “citizen crew” didn’t call or show up and at the end of the day we let another six go because they just weren’t up to the job and hadn’t showed any improvement or the desire to do so. It was obvious this was their first time in the field or else the first job ever for some of the younger pickers (some were “volunteered” by their mothers).

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Utahooligan · 11-13-2011, 02:30 PM

I was an educated, productive (white) resident of California who 'fled' after 8 years due mostly to disgust with the massive numbers of un-educated non-whites (yes, I mostly mean hispanics), their negative impact on the quality of life, and the failure on the local & state level to have the courage to address the issue.

Stokes172 · 11-13-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 415_s2k

Seriously, though. Overpopulation? Do you live in the downtown core of SF or LA? Because there are many, many thousands of square miles throughout the state that are as low-density as you'll find in any other rural area in the US, and they're hardly expensive to live in.

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California has the population of Canada...Canada has a land mass greater than that of the whole USA.

nah it's not crowded.

yeahthatguy · 11-13-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nullgeo

"New tricks" for puppies are *yawns* for old dogs who knew every one of those tricks long ago. Old dogs know about being puppies. Puppies don't know squat about much except squat -- 'specially when they've spent all their time in a kennel and then obedience school and not out on the streets for years. Careful you don't get run over, Rover.

You're as close to present day streets as the armchair in my living room .. and it shows in your commentary...

Everyone paying $2k-$3k a month for a crusty apartment in California in subpar school districts paying out the ying yang in taxes .. well into their 40's (know plenty in my apt. complex) without a penny in the bank gets it but other people in the U.S w/ a spacious home, room to breathe... living in a good school district with financial security and access to the American dream and middle class life don't.

What kind of tricks did they teach you in your day that causes you to think like this? I'd love to learn them and be ignorantly happy w/ this subpar lifestyle in California.