Why is southern California portrayed as having an endless summer? (Palo Alto: vs., malls)

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by allenk893

I disagree. I think Hawaii has perfect weather. Southern California on the other hand does have the most reasonable weather for people like me who hate being too hot, too cold, and humidity.



Until they visit Hawaii. Which is the perfect combination of weather, waves, and Florida-like ocean temps.

Ocean temps in Hawaii are much lower than the Gulf and southern Atlantic coast.

[steel7]

I do see people wearing shorts & flip flops during the winter even when its cold. Go figure.

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

Yes, I agree to a point. I love Hawaii! Hawaii is a close 2nd in my book.

My parents were born and raised there, and 2 of my siblings were born and raised there. I wasn't raised there, but spent much time there in my youth with relatives perfecting my surfing skills, I haven't been back in over 2yrs.

It's a little too humid, the tropical temps, and lack of moderation keep you in that "Hawaiian Time" mode. Not saying that's bad, but Hawaiian Time doesn't jive with mainline time. The sun sets the same time more or less everyday regardless of the season. I like it when the sun sets late in the evening in the summer in higher latitudes. But, I could live there for 3mos every year.

I think you probably didn't notice the day length changes because you didn't live there year round. There's a big difference in day length between summer and winter, because we're pretty far north. Hawaii's tropical, but just barely. The northern tip of Kauai isn't even in the tropics. Hawaii is noticeably cooler in the winter too. Even where I live near the leeward coastline, it goes into the low 60s at night.

I'm from Trinidad, about 10 degrees north of the equator, and day length there really changes little, same temperatures year round too.

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

There's a big difference in day length between summer and winter, because we're pretty far north.

Even where I live near the leeward coastline, it goes into the low 60s at night.

I'm from Trinidad, about 10 degrees north of the equator, and day length there really changes little, same temperatures year round too.

I specifically looked up sunset times the last 2 times I went. Once in Dec and once in June. There was very little difference.

So, low 60's is considered cool at night at the equator?

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

I specifically looked up sunset times the last 2 times I went. Once in Dec and once in June. There was very little difference.

So, low 60's is considered cool at night at the equator?

At the equator at sea level I doubt there's anywhere that it goes below the 70s at night.

On the summer solstice here there's 13:24 sunlight, on the winter solstice only 10:51! 2:33 is a decent difference. Comes out to the sunset varying by 1:17

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

Ocean temps in Hawaii are much lower than the Gulf and southern Atlantic coast.

Hawaii's ocean water temps are much more similar to So.Fla.'s ocean temps than to So.Calif.'s.

Hawaii's Ocean temps are more moderate than So. Fla's.

Honolulu > somewhat warmer in winter than Miami Beach (mid '70's vs. low 70's)
Honolulu < somewhat cooler in summer than Miami Beach (low 80's vs. mid-to-high '80's)

Honolulu Ocean Temps
US NODC Coastal Water Temperature Guide

Miami Beach Ocean Temps
US NODC Coastal Water Temperature Guide

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by steel7

I do see people wearing shorts & flip flops during the winter even when its cold. Go figure.

I also see people in hoodies and scarves when its 80 degrees. People are weird.

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

I also see people in hoodies and scarves when its 80 degrees. People are weird.

That is true but in So.Calif. there is always a good chance of it cooling off at night where that combination looks less ridiculous than during the middle of a pleasant sunny day!

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by SalParadise

That is true but in So.Calif. there is always a good chance of it cooling off at night where that combination looks less ridiculous than during the middle of a pleasant sunny day!

If I'm worried about being out when it cools off, I certainly don't walk around when its hot with a hood over my head. Actually, I hardly ever take a jacket with me in the morning. I can tough it out for 10 minutes at 50 degrees until the car warms up. Then an hour later its over 60 and I don't even need it.

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by winkosmosis

At the equator at sea level I doubt there's anywhere that it goes below the 70s at night.

On the summer solstice here there's 13:24 sunlight, on the winter solstice only 10:51! 2:33 is a decent difference. Comes out to the sunset varying by 1:17

Ok, by tropical standards, I guess, 1hr 17mins is a big difference.

Summer Sunset in July: Honolulu 7:15pm, Sacramento 8:45pm, Paris 10pm

When you are used to sun setting at 9-10pm, the early summer sunset in Hawaii is quite noticeable to someone from northern latitudes.

Twilight is the amount of light still visible after sunset or before sunrise. For example, here in SAC at the summer solstice, the sun will set around 8:45pm but there is still light in the sky for another 1 1/2 hrs.