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Old 12-29-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Was doing research for something and decided y'all might be interested.
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Data is from 2009-2010 IRS Data(County-to-County Out-Migration)

LOS ANGELES BASIN COUNTIES Top 20 out-migration Destinations:
Out of state destinations in RED BOLD.
Los Angeles, CA
1 Orange, CA
2 San Bernardino, CA
3 Riverside, CA
4 Ventura, CA
5 San Diego, CA
6 Clark, NV
7 Kern, CA
8 Maricopa, AZ
9 San Francisco, CA
10 New York, NY(Manhattan)
11 Santa Clara, CA
12 Alameda, CA
13 King, WA
14 Cook, IL
15 Harris, TX
16 Sacramento, CA
17 Santa Barbara, CA
18 Dallas, TX
19 Contra Costa, CA
20 Fresno, CA

Orange, CA
1 Los Angeles, CA
2 Riverside, CA
3 San Diego, CA
4 San Bernardino, CA
5 Clark, NV
6 Maricopa, AZ
7 Santa Clara, CA
8 San Francisco, CA
9 King, WA
10 Alameda, CA
11 Ventura, CA
12 Sacramento, CA
13 New York, NY(Manhattan)
14 Harris, TX
15 Kern, CA
16 Cook, IL
17 Contra Costa, CA
18 Santa Barbara, CA
19 Dallas, TX
20 Honolulu, HI

Riverside, CA
1 San Bernardino, CA
2 Orange, CA
3 Los Angeles, CA
4 San Diego, CA
5 Clark, NV
6 Maricopa, AZ
7 Imperial, CA
8 Kern, CA
9 Ventura, CA
10 Foreign Country
11 Santa Clara, CA
12 Mohave, AZ
13 Sacramento, CA
14 Alameda, CA
15 King, WA
16 Fresno, CA
17 Harris, TX
18 Contra Costa, CA
19 Honolulu, HI
20 Santa Barbara, CA

San Bernardino, CA
1 Riverside, CA
2 Los Angeles, CA
3 Orange, CA
4 San Diego, CA
5 Clark, NV
6 Maricopa, AZ
7 Foreign Country
8 Kern, CA
9 Mohave, AZ
10 Ventura, CA
11 Sacramento, CA
12 Santa Clara, CA
13 Harris, TX
14 Onslow, NC
15 Fresno, CA
16 El Paso, CO
17 Tarrant, TX
18 Alameda, CA
19 Bexar, TX
20 El Paso, TX

Ventura, CA
1 Los Angeles, CA
2 Santa Barbara, CA
3 San Diego, CA
4 Orange, CA
5 Riverside, CA
6 Clark, NV
7 Maricopa, AZ
8 Monterey, CA
9 San Luis Obispo, CA
10 Foreign Country
11 Santa Clara, CA
12 San Francisco, CA
13 Alameda, CA
14 King, WA
15 Sacramento, CA
16 Santa Cruz, CA
17 Fresno, CA
18 Contra Costa County
19 Honolulu, HI
20 Tulare, CA

SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA COUNTIES Top 20 out-migration Destinations:
Out of state destinations in RED BOLD.
Alameda, CA
1 Contra Costa, CA
2 San Francisco, CA
3 San Joaquin, CA
4 San Mateo, CA
5 Los Angeles, CA
6 Sacramento, CA
7 Solano, CA
8 Stanislaus, CA
9 San Diego, CA
10 Orange, CA
11 Sonoma, CA
12 Marin, CA
13 Maricopa, AZ
14 King, WA
15 Clark, NV
16 New York, NY(Manhattan)
17 Placer, CA
18 Cook, IL
19 Santa Cruz, CA
20 Riverside, CA

Contra Costa, CA
1 Alameda, CA
2 San Francisco, CA
3 Solano, CA
4 Santa Clara, CA
5 San Mateo, CA
6 Sacramento, CA
7 Los Angeles, CA
8 San Joaquin, CA
9 San Diego, CA
10 Marin, CA
11 Orange, CA
12 Sonoma, CA
13 Maricopa, AZ
14 Napa, CA
15 Placer, CA
16 Clark, NV
17 King, WA
18 Harris, TX
19 Stanislaus, CA
20 Yolo, CA

Marin, CA
1 Sonoma, CA
2 San Francisco, CA
3 Contra Costa, CA
4 Alameda, CA
5 Los Angeles, CA
6 Solano, CA
7 San Mateo, CA
8 Foreign Country
9 Santa Clara, CA
10 Sacramento, CA
11 New York, NY(Manhattan)
12 Napa, CA
13 King, WA
14 Orange, CA
15 Multnomah, OR
16 Maricopa, AZ
17 Santa Cruz, CA
18 Placer, CA
19 Santa Barbara, CA
20 Nevada, CA

Napa, CA
1 Solano, CA
2 Sonoma, CA
3 San Francisco, CA
4 Sacramento, CA
5 Alameda, CA
6 Lake, CA
7 Los Angeles, CA
8 Marin, CA
9 Santa Clara, CA
10 San Mateo, CA
11 Yolo, CA
12 San Joaquin, CA
13 Clark, NV
14 Riverside, CA
15 San Bernadino, CA
16 Placer, CA
17 Maricopa, AZ
18 El Dorado, CA
19 Orange, CA
20 King, WA

San Benito, CA
1 Santa Clara, CA
2 Monterey, CA
3 Merced, CA
4 Santa Cruz, CA
5 Alameda, CA
6 Fresno, CA
7 San Diego, CA
8 Los Angeles, CA
9 Contra Costa, CA
10 Sacramento, CA
11 Riverside, CA
12 San Luis Obispo, CA
13 San Joaquin, CA
14 Stanislaus, CA
15 Orange, CA
16 Maricopa, AZ
17 Madera, CA
No more counties reported with a migration value of 10+ persons.

San Francisco, CA
1 San Mateo, CA
2 Alameda, CA
3 Contra Costa, CA
4 Santa Clara, CA
5 Marin, CA
6 New York, NY(Manhattan)
7 San Diego, CA
8 Sacramento, CA
9 Sonoma, CA
10 King, WA
11 Solano, CA
12 Kings County, NY(Brooklyn)
13 Orange, CA
14 Cook, IL
15 Washington, DC
16 Multnomah, OR
17 Middlesex, MA
18 San Joaquin, CA
19 Maricopa, AZ
20 Santa Cruz, CA

San Mateo, CA
1 San Francisco, CA
2 Santa Clara, CA
3 Alameda, CA
4 Contra Costa, CA
5 Los Angeles, CA
6 Sacramento, CA
7 San Diego, CA
8 Solano, CA
9 San Joaquin, CA
10 Sonoma, CA
11 Marin, CA
12 Orange, CA
13 Santa Cruz, CA
14 King, WA
15 Clark, NV
16 Stanislaus, CA
17 Placer, CA
18 New York, NY(Manhattan)
19 Maricopa, AZ
20 Yolo, CA

Santa Clara, CA
1 Alameda, CA
2 San Mateo, CA
3 San Francisco, CA
4 Los Angeles, CA
5 San Joaquin, CA
6 Contra Costa, CA
7 Santa Cruz, CA
8 San Diego, CA
9 Stanislaus, CA
10 Merced, CA
11 Orange, CA
12 Monterey, CA
13 San Benito, CA
14 King, WA
15 Maricopa, AZ
16 Placer, CA
17 Clark, NV
18 Fresno, CA
19 New York, NY(Manhattan)
20 Sonoma, CA

Santa Cruz, CA
1 Santa Clara, CA
2 Monterey, CA
3 Alameda, CA
4 San Francisco, cA
5 Los Angeles, CA
6 San Diego, CA
7 San Mateo, CA
8 Sacramento, CA
9 San Benito, CA
10 Orange, CA
11 Contra Costa, CA
12 Merced, CA
13 San Joaquin, CA
14 Sonoma, CA
15 Santa Barbara, CA
16 Fresno, CA
17 Ventura, CA
18 San Luis Obispo, CA
19 King, WA
20 Stanislaus, CA

Solano, CA
1 Contra Costa, CA
2 Sacramento, CA
3 Napa, CA
4 Alameda, CA
5 Yolo, CA
6 San Francisco, CA
7 Foreign Country
8 Los Angeles, CA
9 San Mateo, CA
10 Santa Clara, CA
11 San Diego, CA
12 San Joaquin, CA
13 Placer, CA
14 Marin, CA
15 Clark, NV
16 Orange, CA
17 Bexar, TX
18 Maricopa, AZ
19 Riverside, CA
20 San Bernardino, CA

Sonoma, CA
1 Marin, CA
2 San Francisco, CA
3 Alameda, CA
4 Sacramento, CA
5 Los Angeles, CA
6 Contra Costa, CA
7 Solano, CA
8 Lake, CA
9 Napa, CA
10 San Diego, CA
11 Santa Clara, CA
12 Mendocino, CA
13 San Mateo, CA
14 Orange, CA
15 Placer, CA
16 King, WA
17 Humboldt, CA
18 Maricopa, AZ
19 San Joaquin, CA
20 Yolo, CA

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Old 12-29-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Interesting observation, Out-of-State counties only break into the Top 10 of Bay Area counties only 4 times(out of 110 possible Top 10 rankings)

Marin County: 8th place for Foreign Country
San Francisco County: 6th place for Manhattan; 10th place for King, WA(Seattle)
Solano County: 7th place Foreign Country

On the other hand, Out-of-State counties take up 16 of 50 possible Top 10 positions among LA Basin Counties.

I wonder why people in the LA Basin are a bit more eager to move out of state?

Ironically, LA is a major destination of Bay Area Counties.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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I'd say most people are motivated not just by personal preferences to move, but by work. That's probably the #1 reason people move places. The Bay Area job market tends to be better than the LA job market, so people tend to stay within the area. People also move within the state quite a bit for work, so a Bay Area to LA move is pretty common. The interesting thing is that the cost of living is lower in LA than in the Bay Area (for the most part), so you might expect more people to leave the Bay Area for a lower cost of living, but I think people really like it there.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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It would be interesting to see the same list without the local moves (within the metro area). Interestingly, people from down south more readily move to Texas, whereas people from up north are more likely to move to Portland. Other destinations (NY, Phoenix, Seattle and each other) are comparable.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:47 PM
 
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No ... sleep ... 'till BROOOOK-lynnnnnnnn!
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:31 AM
 
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San Franciscans really do hate LA. LOL. Surprisingly not in the top 10.
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Interesting observation, Out-of-State counties only break into the Top 10 of Bay Area counties only 4 times(out of 110 possible Top 10 rankings)

Marin County: 8th place for Foreign Country
San Francisco County: 6th place for Manhattan; 10th place for King, WA(Seattle)
Solano County: 7th place Foreign Country

On the other hand, Out-of-State counties take up 16 of 50 possible Top 10 positions among LA Basin Counties.

I wonder why people in the LA Basin are a bit more eager to move out of state?

Ironically, LA is a major destination of Bay Area Counties.
The counties in the San Francisco area are smaller than the Los Angeles area. Take one example, San Francisco County, the top five destination counties would not even appear in the list if San Francisco County were the same size as Los Angeles County

San Francisco, CA
1 San Mateo, CA
2 Alameda, CA
3 Contra Costa, CA
4 Santa Clara, CA
5 Marin, CA
6 New York, NY(Manhattan)
7 San Diego, CA
8 Sacramento, CA
9 Sonoma, CA
10 King, WA
11 Solano, CA
12 Kings County, NY(Brooklyn)
13 Orange, CA
14 Cook, IL
15 Washington, DC
16 Multnomah, OR
17 Middlesex, MA

18 San Joaquin, CA
19 Maricopa, AZ
20 Santa Cruz, CA
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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The counties in the San Francisco area are smaller than the Los Angeles area. Take one example, San Francisco County, the top five destination counties would not even appear in the list if San Francisco County were the same size as Los Angeles County

San Francisco, CA
1 San Mateo, CA
2 Alameda, CA
3 Contra Costa, CA
4 Santa Clara, CA
5 Marin, CA
6 New York, NY(Manhattan)
7 San Diego, CA
8 Sacramento, CA
9 Sonoma, CA
10 King, WA
11 Solano, CA
12 Kings County, NY(Brooklyn)
13 Orange, CA
14 Cook, IL
15 Washington, DC
16 Multnomah, OR
17 Middlesex, MA
18 San Joaquin, CA
19 Maricopa, AZ
20 Santa Cruz, CA
Great observation.

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Out of State Migration
Santa Clara 33.7%
San Francisco 33.2%
Sonoma 28.3%
Marin 25.2%
Solano 25.0%
Santa Cruz 24.8%
Alameda 24.4%
Napa 21.0%
Contra Costa 19.6%
San Mateo 18.9%
San Benito 12.2%

Los Angeles 44.0%
Ventura 30.6%
Orange 28.2%
San Bernardino 23.4%
Riverside 20.4%
After doing further doing I notice that LA County itself that has the much higher rate of out of state migration.

Also, San Diego County has an out of state migration rate of 56% which I think has a lot to do with the military.
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