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Old 02-06-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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Very true! But, Obama's poll numbers are on the rise! He has solved the economy!! Heck, he needs more than a second term.

Ok, here is the deal. BHO gets a second term. Joe Biden can have the next two terms. (I know the 7/11 clerks will vote for him.) Then, haul out Chelsea Clnton so we can have Hill and Bill pulling her strings for another 8 years! BY that time,no doubt we will have another Kennedy of age to round out the Century! Boy, are we lucky??

Is America great or what?
And then another round of La Familia Bush.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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And then another round of La Familia Bush.
By Gosh Man! You are right! How could i forget that Dynasty! Gees we really are toast! With so many intelligent people in the Nation , why does it appear that the politicians we have are never adequate. That is all i ask adequate, not brilliant or fantastic,,just keep us safe and pay the bills. Is that too hard to ask?
Nawww,, the lust for power will invaribly gets us the dunderheads we have and vote for.. We have met the enemy and it truly is us.
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Old 02-06-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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We have been reduced to a simple battle of philosophical difference.. Team R or Team D...

IMO until we have major campaign finance reform... This R or D choice will continue... .
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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Its hilarious to see all the conservatives getting their panties in a bunch in a bit of good news. Suddenly the unemployment numbers are not real, and people are not being counted blah blah. However, when the unemployment numbers were going down when St. Reagan was in office they were very real. They were also real when they were going up as Obama took office. Guys, you need a break. Unemployment numbers going down is a GOOD thing.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:34 PM
 
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We see reports like this that don't match reality and we also still see weekly initial unemployment numbers average more than 450,000 ... per week. Unemployment numbers are fake because they don't count "discouraged workers" which is a huge and growing number. We keep hearing the economy is improving from the government and media but for the average people we just don't see it. Now we have Greece in default and the EU starting to tumble. The outlook is not good but listening to the government and media its good times again.
Not sure where you get your numbers from. Weekly unemployment claims have been below 400K for a long time. Jobless Claims Decline - WSJ.com

Also, the unemployment numbers are aligned with ADP's numbers - a simple reporting off their payroll system of private sector job growth
ADP Employment Report

And lastly the ISM numbers have been trending high
ISM - ISM Report - January 2012 Manufacturing ISM Report On Business®

So, its not just unemployment numbers..
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:40 AM
 
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1.8 Million more jobs and we'll be in good shape, but this is a most welcomed development.
Actually:

1. Most of the jobs being created are transitional jobs, such as cashiering or making frothy coffee.

2. The numbers are probably fabricated, just as are the unemployment numbers (national unemployment is more than 20%, though the government states it's around 8% or whatever they're peddling this week).
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:22 AM
 
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Wow 319,348 jobs created? At that rate it will take about five or six years to bring the 11.3% unemployment rate back down to a reasonable number.

There’s also that little thing called population growth. Assuming a 1% pop growth California is just treading water at 11% unemployment.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:18 PM
 
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Wow 319,348 jobs created? At that rate it will take about five or six years to bring the 11.3% unemployment rate back down to a reasonable number.

There’s also that little thing called population growth. Assuming a 1% pop growth California is just treading water at 11% unemployment.
Very minimal population growth these days. I doubt it's 1%. It may go negative this year.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:51 PM
 
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Very minimal population growth these days. I doubt it's 1%. It may go negative this year.
The California cheerleader that started this thread thinks otherwise given this post. //www.city-data.com/forum/calif...hic-again.html
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:53 PM
 
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[quote=Visit a Library;22877320]Actually:

1. Most of the jobs being created are transitional jobs, such as cashiering or making frothy coffee.



But, gosh darn it! We need that frothy coffee. Lets think of it this way, California is a big family and we need everyone playing their role in the betterment of the whole. Frothy coffee is right up there with thick crust pizza, a must have for our survival. And, we have all the other jobs such as surfboard waxer, yoga instructors and chocoliteers to make it complete.

So, we need to take a complete cleansing breath and be thankful we all have our spot in the big circle of life that is California.
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