The Great California Exodus (Sacramento, Vista: sale, stores, design)

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

But for many, not the jobs to support would-be movers/dwellers. Not everyone can work from home or live on the ancestral farm. There is no broad-brush solution.

Can't they just spend more time at their summer homes?

[ringwise]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Nope, draw a line from Inverness, to Petaluma St. Helena, Woodland, Grass Valley, Truckee. Somewhere north of there is Northern California.

The Bay area aside from The City is just another mass of people, like Los Angeles, or Dallas, or Memphis or any of several hundred indistinguishable masses of people plopped down all over this nation.

North of Grass Valley? So Sacramento isn't Northern CA? Hate to break it to you, but it IS.

I know you fancy yourself all things California, but please don't make statements about your opinion when they are nothing but that.

[.highnlite]

but please don't make statements about your opinion when they are nothing but that.

I wonder if you could translate this sentence into english?

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

::::sigh:::: You're so wonderful. But if a village of 176, which is actually nine miles from our home, is considered urban then y'all have some funny definitions.

Don't own a horse. Not enough land. Ain't apologizin' for our income. Guess we just planned better.

Does any of this post make sense?

[Curmudgeon]

Nice try but you can't bluff away your arrogance and sense of superiority. Two put-downs in a row to two different people doesn't make you clever or intelligent, just unpleasant. Does any of that register with you? Of course not.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Nice try but you can't bluff away your arrogance and sense of superiority. Two put-downs in a row to two different people doesn't make you clever or intelligent, just unpleasant. Does any of that register with you? Of course not.

One sentence so grammatically bad that no sense can be taken from it.

The next a series of statements seemingly disconnected from anything posted before, or even from each other. Makes me wonder if Johnny Walker left the cupboard a bit early today.

You are right, I cannot, nor do I try to bluff away, anything, after all, I am me. It appears from the many statements you make about how wonderful my life must be, that you envy me; ranch, wait, ancestral ranch, horses, beautiful wife, big trucks, and all.

[Curmudgeon]

Nah. If it was so wonderful you wouldn't have to be constantly blowing your own horn about all your toys. They don't make you right, impressive or pleasant. But obviously you're impressed by you so have at it.

[oldtrader]

Another old time company leaving California and taking another 700 jobs from the state.


Campbell Soup Shutting Down Sacramento Plant; 700 Jobs Being Cut « CBS Sacramento

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by oldtrader

Another old time company leaving California and taking another 700 jobs from the state.


Campbell Soup Shutting Down Sacramento Plant; 700 Jobs Being Cut « CBS Sacramento

Yep! I just posted that on the Sacramento Board a bit ago. Also, Comcast is shutting down its call center in Natomas - 300 more jobs lost, though I'm sure India will be pleased.

[nightbird47]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

You do understand that you do not have to live in Mordor, you don't have to move to Kentucky or Oklahoma to live in charming rural areas.

You can leave Mordor.

You should leave Mordor.

I don't hate California. I just don't want to live there anymore. I'm getting tired of the mentality that you did something terrible if you left.

There are plenty of places outside of California which are desirable places to live. There are also many other factors in one's choice. There is the place itself, but there is also cost of living, old memories and sometimes you just really want to get away from it all.

I'm quite happy where I live. I have three large, beautiful trees by my house and soon sometime will have the yard fenced so me and the dogs can play out there. I've been up in nocal and if I ever were to go back to California it would be there. But people here are not in a hurry, friendly but not in your face about it, and this is what I needed. Maybe there are places like this in nocal, but its still going to cost much more, and I can afford here. Maybe there is a duplicate of my new home in norcal but its not affordable. Even if you can, why not move to where what you have lasts longer. If you want to see California, you can visit. And when you add in the rest the RIGHT decision is to leave. That is a huge part of where you choose to live. As the biggest inflow into Oklahoma are from California, I'm not alone.

I miss friends and local fandom, but then most of the people I've known for years have already moved from California. Bit by bit, family is too. They can't all be wrong.

A long time ago we tried to move up north of Redding, along the highway to Lassen national park. The trees are very tall and the air is clean and we loved it, but couldn't sell our house. But I needed to be away from the old, and sadly it was part of the old. And I couldn't afford it anyway.

And as impossible as it may be for some I love living where I do. It isn't California, but that's okay. If you had to live where you were born, especially if it changes too much, we'd all be sitting on the eastern seaboard. I have wonderful memories of California, but what I loved isn't there. I'd rather just not see it again and ruin my memories.

And this isn't mordor. I wouldn't even say west Texas was though in several train trips I made through there I closed the curtain. Just generally dull with a few moments of beauty. There is beauty in a lot of places if you don't wear blinders and refuse to see it.