The Great California Exodus (Vista, Campbell: contractors, camping, floor)

[Fontucky]

Some huge clues in the text: "The company says the Sacramento plant, built in 1947, is the oldest in its network and has the highest production costs on a per-case basis."

"These actions also will eliminate the capital investments needed to maintain the Sacramento plant.”

I'm also wondering if Comcast plans to keep the jobs in this country.

[oldtrader]

Having such high costs to do business in California, and the high taxes, are the two reasons driving out most of the companies that are leaving California at the rate of one every weekday. Leaving what businesses call the most business unfriendly state in the country.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

I'm also wondering if Comcast plans to keep the jobs in this country.

From what I heard on the news, Comcast is closing the call centers and moving out of state because California isn't very business-friendly for the reasons stated by oldtrader

high costs to do business in California, and the high taxes

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by oldtrader

Another old time company leaving California and taking another 700 jobs from the state.
Campbell Soup Shutting Down Sacramento Plant; 700 Jobs Being Cut « CBS Sacramento

Here OldTrader, analyze how these business closings are a sign that California is disintegrating ... be sure to include a full report on the racial implications ... thanks P.S. When you get done analyzing how these business closings are a sign of California's unfriendly business environment destroying its future, I've got about a bazillion more from every state in the union for you to help us out with

Vann’s Closing Montana Stores
Vann’s Electronics has announces that they will be closing their Bozeman stores – leaving 150 of their employee’s without jobs.
Vann’s Closing Montana Stores

Kmart announces closure of Missoula store
Kmart announced on Tuesday that it will close its Missoula store.
About 50 Kmart employes will lose their jobs when the store closes in two months.
Kmart announces closure of Missoula store | KXLH.com | Helena, Montana

Montana's first Godfather's Pizza is closing
Montana's first Godfather's Pizza is closing : Business

J.C. Penney to close Indiana center, lay off 230
J.C. Penney to close Indiana center, lay off 230 - Louisville - Business First

Peabody closing 230-worker Indiana coal mine
Peabody closing 230-worker Indiana coal mine » Business » News From Terre Haute, Indiana

Marsh Supermarkets closing three central Indiana stores
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...Indiana-stores

Nebraska Book Company Closing More Stores Nebraska Book Company Closing More Stores

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by nightbird47

I don't hate California. I just don't want to live there anymore. I'm getting tired of the mentality that you did something terrible if you left.

There are plenty of places outside of California which are desirable places to live. There are also many other factors in one's choice. There is the place itself, but there is also cost of living, old memories and sometimes you just really want to get away from it all.

I'm quite happy where I live. I have three large, beautiful trees by my house and soon sometime will have the yard fenced so me and the dogs can play out there. I've been up in nocal and if I ever were to go back to California it would be there. But people here are not in a hurry, friendly but not in your face about it, and this is what I needed. Maybe there are places like this in nocal, but its still going to cost much more, and I can afford here. Maybe there is a duplicate of my new home in norcal but its not affordable. Even if you can, why not move to where what you have lasts longer. If you want to see California, you can visit. And when you add in the rest the RIGHT decision is to leave. That is a huge part of where you choose to live. As the biggest inflow into Oklahoma are from California, I'm not alone.

I miss friends and local fandom, but then most of the people I've known for years have already moved from California. Bit by bit, family is too. They can't all be wrong.

A long time ago we tried to move up north of Redding, along the highway to Lassen national park. The trees are very tall and the air is clean and we loved it, but couldn't sell our house. But I needed to be away from the old, and sadly it was part of the old. And I couldn't afford it anyway.

And as impossible as it may be for some I love living where I do. It isn't California, but that's okay. If you had to live where you were born, especially if it changes too much, we'd all be sitting on the eastern seaboard. I have wonderful memories of California, but what I loved isn't there. I'd rather just not see it again and ruin my memories.

And this isn't mordor. I wouldn't even say west Texas was though in several train trips I made through there I closed the curtain. Just generally dull with a few moments of beauty. There is beauty in a lot of places if you don't wear blinders and refuse to see it.

Here are a few homes for sale within 30 minutes of BART and about an hour and 15 minutes to downtown S.F. ... these homes are in a pretty, quiet, very low crime, small rural town ... they are single family dwellings with yards and trees ... they are in good-to-excellent condition, some needing some paint, some completely refurbished ... prices start under $100K

821 Morgan Lane, Rio Vista CA - Trulia
$92K


903 Laurel Way, Rio Vista CA - Trulia
$118,500




127 North 5th Street, Rio Vista CA - Trulia
$129K


673 Rubier Way, Rio Vista CA - Trulia
$145,900


There are many many more in this town and other similar, very nice rural-ish towns in California.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Nah. If it was so wonderful you wouldn't have to be constantly blowing your own horn about all your toys. They don't make you right, impressive or pleasant. But obviously you're impressed by you so have at it.

Oh, I forgot, "ancestral ranch" on the coast of California, heir to the highest level of civilization yet achieved by man.

Originally Posted by oldtrader

Another old time company leaving California and taking another 700 jobs from the state.


Campbell Soup Shutting Down Sacramento Plant; 700 Jobs Being Cut « CBS Sacramento

Truly, is anyone going to miss Campbell's soup? Really. By the way, there are aproximately 2,000,000 corporations in California, any hints you have on getting more out of here, please let us know, enquiring minds etc.

Originally Posted by nightbird47

I don't hate California. I just don't want to live there anymore. I'm getting tired of the mentality that you did something terrible if you left.


And this isn't mordor. I wouldn't even say west Texas was though in several train trips I made through there I closed the curtain. Just generally dull with a few moments of beauty. There is beauty in a lot of places if you don't wear blinders and refuse to see it.

Your post complained of conditions in Mordor, yet you are in a completely different state, why on earth would conditions in Mordor or the rest of the state be of any interest to you? Texas is fine, tepid, insipid landscape, except in the far west. Living east of the 100th meridian works for some people, for others, it would be dreadfully boring.

I do not advocate the beauty of California so much as the variety and amount of public land. Apparently you live in Texas.

Texas is 171,891,840, acres in size with no more than about 2,000,000 of those acres, public land. Out of that 2,000,000 acres of public land, Texas has about 86,000 acres of designated wilderness.

For the fun of it, lets look at one of the chief California bashers current state, Missouri 44,090,000 acres in size, or about the size of the land area of California that is, by law, uninhabited.

Out of that acreage Missouri has about 3,000,000 acres of public land. More than Texas. and has about 72,000 acres of wilderness, or nearly as much as Texas, yet Texas is almost 4 times larger.

California is about 104,786,000 acres in size, with 43,700,000 acres of public land, roughly 43% of the state and 14,000,000 acres of wilderness.

Or roughly 14 times the wilderness acres of Missouri or Texas. Now, one can quibble over relative values of scenery, but, the numbers don't lie, and for many in CA, those numbers make life in CA worth while.

Now lets look at my personal favorite state, America's Last Best Place, Nevada is about 70,264,320 acres of which 58,226,015.6 is public land. About 82% of the state. Nevada has 733,400 acres of designated wilderness, or roughly 10 times Missouri or Texas.

Of course, for indoor people those numbers are meaningless, and it matters not a whit where they live, but, for out door people, the West, is the place to be.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Truly, is anyone going to miss Campbell's soup? Really. By the way, there are aproximately 2,000,000 corporations in California, any hints you have on getting more out of here, please let us know, enquiring minds etc.

I'm fairly certain at least 700 people will.

[BlackShoe]

More grim news, California leads all states in public debt, $617 billion. But still the leftists on this forum will respond with their usual head-in-the-sand manner, and insist, as they always have, that everything in just fine and that there is nothing to worry about, and that such warnings are just right wing propaganda and hysteria.
www.ocregister.com/opinion/state-372854-california-tax.html

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

I'm fairly certain at least 700 people will.

Either one accepts capitalism, or one is a socialist, with capitalism, profit is the imperative, I trust you have no problem with that, not being a socialist and all.

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

More grim news, California leads all states in public debt, $617 billion. But still the leftists on this forum will respond with their usual head-in-the-sand manner, and insist, as they always have, that everything in just fine and that there is nothing to worry about, and that such warnings are just right wing propaganda and hysteria.
www.ocregister.com/opinion/state-372854-california-tax.html

Why is this grim?

[5thgenSF]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Here are a few homes for sale within 30 minutes of BART and about an hour and 15 minutes to downtown S.F. ... these homes are in a pretty, quiet, very low crime, small rural town ... they are single family dwellings with yards and trees ... they are in good-to-excellent condition, some needing some paint, some completely refurbished ... prices start under $100K

821 Morgan Lane, Rio Vista CA - Trulia
$92K


903 Laurel Way, Rio Vista CA - Trulia
$118,500


127 North 5th Street, Rio Vista CA - Trulia
$129K


673 Rubier Way, Rio Vista CA - Trulia
$145,900


There are many many more in this town and other similar, very nice rural-ish towns in California.

no. easily a two or more hour commute in traffic to SF. one of those has no inside pictures (read "dump") and another one says it needs a new kitchen and kitchen floor. a few of those do look nice but you'll have the commute from hell.