The Great California Exodus (Los Angeles, San Francisco: quality of life, restaurants, zip code)

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by Woof

wtf?!

Nope. True story. My secret that isn't a secret. Just not obvious to folks who only recognize the bullsh8t lifestyles they are sold through contemporary consumer engineering.

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by novaman

Where is this place?

Originally Posted by 5thgenSF

rio vista

Bingo ... direct hit and a kewpie doll for 5thgenSF

Nice little town. I love it. Completely out of the suburban sprawl -- yet close enough for a city fix if a person is so inclined. And no, I am not paid by their Chamber of Commerce. And I hope no one takes note and moves there. I shouldn'ta brought it up.

Lotsa tricks to finding a great life affordably in California.

[Woof]

FWIW: San Francisco Is America's Best City in 2012 - Businessweek

You'd think it wouldn't be rated top city by a business magazine if the state were collapsing.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Well, I'm gonna guess he did better at arithmetic than you did in spelling ...

Let's see ... you make an issue out of the state's debt ... I explain how debt position is measured -- as a problem -- or not -- and that California's debt position is better than the nation with the world's strongest economy ... umm, and that's a bad yardstick?

Problem, Nations can print money, CA can't.

People can take on two or more jobs to earn more to pay their debt. CA can't, it only takes from those with jobs, so paying off debt is a whole lot harder. The CA Gov't does not create any wealth for itself, it takes from the ones working and businesses.

People can cut their spending, CA won't.

People can go bankrupt and CA can't.

So how; beyond raising taxes which ultimately reduces the spending of the ones taxed and the taxes associated with that drops, does the State actually get more money?

Comparing CA to other Nations looks nice, but it actually is of no value when it comes to debt. The beauty and resources is of no help in making money, the weather does not help. Money comes from the workers and the business they work for. Less people working means less in taxes to the State.

[PhysicianMD]

Are people leaving Bakersfield?

[Curmudgeon]

Crowded or empty, it's still Bakersfield. Of course, if you 're an ex-con roughneck it's perfect. They'll all stay there and in Oildale.

But for now, west Bakers is still pretty upscale.

[PhysicianMD]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Problem, Nations can print money, CA can't.

People can take on two or more jobs to earn more to pay their debt. CA can't, it only takes from those with jobs, so paying off debt is a whole lot harder. The CA Gov't does not create any wealth for itself, it takes from the ones working and businesses.

People can cut their spending, CA won't.

People can go bankrupt and CA can't.

So how; beyond raising taxes which ultimately reduces the spending of the ones taxed and the taxes associated with that drops, does the State actually get more money?

Comparing CA to other Nations looks nice, but it actually is of no value when it comes to debt. The beauty and resources is of no help in making money, the weather does not help. Money comes from the workers and the business they work for. Less people working means less in taxes to the State.

The real estate bubble burst
Look at Las Vegas

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Problem, Nations can print money, CA can't.

People can take on two or more jobs to earn more to pay their debt. CA can't, it only takes from those with jobs, so paying off debt is a whole lot harder. The CA Gov't does not create any wealth for itself, it takes from the ones working and businesses.

People can cut their spending, CA won't.

People can go bankrupt and CA can't.

So how; beyond raising taxes which ultimately reduces the spending of the ones taxed and the taxes associated with that drops, does the State actually get more money?

Comparing CA to other Nations looks nice, but it actually is of no value when it comes to debt. The beauty and resources is of no help in making money, the weather does not help. Money comes from the workers and the business they work for. Less people working means less in taxes to the State.

You have accomplished the near-impossible: rendered me temporarily speechless with your irrelevant associations in this post. Perhaps later, when my head clears, I can get back to it ... unbelievable nonsense.

[5thgenSF]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

You have accomplished the near-impossible: rendered me temporarily speechless with your irrelevant associations in this post. Perhaps later, when my head clears, I can get back to it ... unbelievable nonsense.

i have to wonder if that person did some serious drugs back in the day. and that is what's LEFT!

[PhysicianMD]

Is there any great place to live left?
Seattle?
Raleigh?
Dallas?
Atlanta?