California wants to push more welfare recipients to work (San Jose: rental, college)

[user_id]

Originally Posted by TVC15

Nullgeo has spoken for himself...I don't care for your interpretation. Nullgeo thinks that anyone who holds a degree and is an expert at what they do is a pompous elitist....I know you are hard of reading but I can't read it for you and I can't understand it for you.

Do you have some sort of direction connection to Nullgeo's thoughts? Because otherwise you too are....interpreting his commentary. But heck, let's ask him.

NullGeo:

What do you mean by "educated-elite"? Are you talking about anybody that is an educated and/or has expertise?

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by user_id

Do you have some sort of direction connection to Nullgeo's thoughts? Because otherwise you too are....interpreting his commentary. But heck, let's ask him.

NullGeo:

What do you mean by "educated-elite"? Are you talking about anybody that is an educated and/or has expertise?

Calm down and go back as painful as it might be and re-read everything he posted and how much he looked down on people who are educated and how they are all just pompous elitists who look down upon those less fortunate.

Besides it really does not matter at this point...we all read what was written and if you have not noticed this thread has run it course.

See you in music land!

[yeahthatguy]

Troll of the year award .. user_id and his cohorts ..

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by TVC15

...BTW I think you did not read carefully the point he was making...he thinks that anyone who is expert at what they do (that is me!) is bad for society...or how did he put it? I think he thinks anyone with a degree is bad for society.

Read carefully user_id

Originally Posted by user_id

Do you have some sort of direction connection to Nullgeo's thoughts? Because otherwise you too are....interpreting his commentary. But heck, let's ask him.

NullGeo:

What do you mean by "educated-elite"? Are you talking about anybody that is an educated and/or has expertise?

*sigh* Just in from hiking with the dogs. Outstanding conversationalists. Rarely misunderstand anything I say

No, I didn't ever say or infer what TVC15 is reacting to. I have never in my life said or inferred any such.
I have been lax lately in trumpeting my own credentials:
I have undergrad and graduate degrees myself ... in both [performing] arts and in health sciences.
I also have a pretty substantial financial net worth ... I'm no 1%'er, but I suspect the vast majority of Americans would love to have the level of wealth I do.

Now then, what I was saying was in response to something ytg was preaching: that it is the poor who "transfer power" to the rich ... he was arguing that the poor foolishly empower the rich. I responded as follows:

Originally Posted by nullgeo

... Your babbling on about how the poor give the rich their power is meaningless to this discussion. If there is any shame in the exchange [meaning the exchange of power ytg suggests], it should be leveled at those [unscrupulous individuals who do take advantage] sophisticated and expert at what they do ... that is the level at which knowledgeable will is applied to taking advantage of others at the expense of society and the environment -- purely for personal gain and gratification. Once a person becomes fully aware of their actions is the point at which full responsibility is called for. Until then it is the frailty of undeveloped human nature. Would the poor do the same damage if they had the chance? Undoubtedly. But they aren't. So if anyone wants to call BS, level the call at the actual perps. Simple. It's about intellectual honesty and spiritual integrity.

... meaning that any shame should be leveled at those sophisticated, well educated, highly experienced, wealthy professionals who take advantage of opportunities that do damage to the society we all share.

That is not to generalize that all wealthy, or well educated -- to which both group classifications I also belong -- do take advantage of destructive opportunities for their self-interests.

TVC15, I am not out to humiliate you. You have simply made some statements about the poor and uneducated in this thread that come across -- blatantly -- sounding elitist. When I said so you ceased to read with discrimination and thoughtful analysis, and apply logical consideration to the points I make. You appear exceedingly upset and defensive ... but you are the one painting yourself into that corner. And your ally and friend ytg has similarly jumped to his own defensive assumptions.

[nullgeo]

And still no one has been able to dispute my points about the greatest damages being perpetrated by members of the wealthy, well educated elite ... while the poor do no more than self-destruct.

If that's trolling -- I dunno. I think I am making a pretty damn good observation, of course

[yeahthatguy]

Originally Posted by user_id

Its amusing how central home ownership is in the American status system, to the point where living in an apartment is seen as some sort of hell.

[yeahthatguy]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

And still no one has been able to dispute my points about the greatest damages being perpetrated by members of the wealthy, well educated elite ... while the poor do no more than self-destruct.

If that's trolling -- I dunno. I think I am making a pretty damn good observation, of course

[Howest2008]

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[nullgeo]

Also intriguing how some supposedly well educated, high earning individuals can be so infantile ...

[yeahthatguy]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Also intriguing how some supposedly well educated, high earning individuals can be so infantile ...