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Old 08-10-2012, 12:54 AM
 
Location: the illegal immigrant state
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Ah, the epic plastic bag thread.

I'll tell the grandchildren I participated in this thread.

As for plastic bags and how they relate to my existence as a human.... I liked large plastic bags because I could use them as trash can liners. Remember, it's (a) reduce, (b) reuse), (c) recycle! Yay! Being the treehugger that I am, I would religiously recycle the ones I didn't reuse.

As we move forward into a plastic bag-less era, though, and I'm ready to adapt.

Now I'll buy special plastic bags and I'll throw them into the landfill. Gotta use something for landfilling.
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:37 AM
 
Location: California / Maryland / Cape May
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Ah, the epic plastic bag thread.

I'll tell the grandchildren I participated in this thread.

As for plastic bags and how they relate to my existence as a human.... I liked large plastic bags because I could use them as trash can liners. Remember, it's (a) reduce, (b) reuse), (c) recycle! Yay! Being the treehugger that I am, I would religiously recycle the ones I didn't reuse.

As we move forward into a plastic bag-less era, though, and I'm ready to adapt.

Now I'll buy special plastic bags and I'll throw them into the landfill. Gotta use something for landfilling.
lol Yup. That sounds about right. A real solution needs to be created, not one that is just meant to line pockets with money. Such is life, I suppose. As long as humans are greedy and self-centered, this planet and all the other animals on it have no hope. But, hey, someone is going to get rich off charging for bags, so I guess that should go in the win column.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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lol Yup. That sounds about right. A real solution needs to be created, not one that is just meant to line pockets with money. Such is life, I suppose. As long as humans are greedy and self-centered, this planet and all the other animals on it have no hope. But, hey, someone is going to get rich off charging for bags, so I guess that should go in the win column.
Very true. I don't agree with the charge. It's just another tax really.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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Very true. I don't agree with the charge. It's just another tax really.
Yep the main problem is not CA but the pacific rim countries like China.

CA's example will mean soooo much to them.

Again an effort to look good, while doing very little to actually help. Oh yeah, and cost the public even more in the charges now in existence for "reusable" bags or even the old free paper bags. Why didn't the State just outlaw plastic bags and leave paper bags alone???????

Ah well, China will just sell us more paper bags and re-usable bags and they don't have any minimum wage to worry about either. (another thread).
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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For what its worth, I don't think the state is profiting much off of the sale of paper bags, if at all. Most of the "charge for paper" laws are on the muni level, anyway, and seem to be more of an incentive for shoppers to bring reusable bags, rather than make a switch to paper. Its my guess that the $.05 goes to the store itself, but again, just a guess.

....something to research this afternoon.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Yep the main problem is not CA but the pacific rim countries like China.

CA's example will mean soooo much to them.

Again an effort to look good, while doing very little to actually help. Oh yeah, and cost the public even more in the charges now in existence for "reusable" bags or even the old free paper bags. Why didn't the State just outlaw plastic bags and leave paper bags alone???????

Ah well, China will just sell us more paper bags and re-usable bags and they don't have any minimum wage to worry about either. (another thread).
I never said the charge would be financially crippling. Even the poorest among us can get by with it. My point was, I see no logical reason for such a small charge.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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I never said the charge would be financially crippling. Even the poorest among us can get by with it. My point was, I see no logical reason for such a small charge.
I agree, why any charge at all????
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:52 PM
 
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They are also not useful for disposal of trash (trash can liners) and dog poop.
I grew up when grocery stores didn't have plastic bags, and used them in my early adulthood too. My parents and I always used paper bags for trash can liners and bucket liners for picking up the dog poop. We used them to cover our school books (everybody had to cover their books, don't know if they still do that) and to wrap presents when we were out of wrapping paper. I finally switched to plastic when the bottom ripped out of a paper bag yet again and a six-pack of beer bottles shattered on the driveway. I broke soooo many bottles using paper bags that ripped. But, yeah, paper bags were very useful in the long-ago days.
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Who cares? Is it some how a hardship for you to use a paper bag?
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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Who cares? Is it some how a hardship for you to use a paper bag?
Who are you addressing and have you read the entire thread?


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