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Old 09-14-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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3,359,775 Companies in California
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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To some extent your questions are misdirection.

Regardless of the other details, businesses are leaving or expanding elsewhere. They are not keeping their money, employees or even the "prosperity" they are experiencing In CA. If it was a restaurant chain, what restaurant chain? I know of none.

They are leaving and it isn't because CA is an ugly State, has crummy people and nothing appealing about it. They are leaving for some reason that overpowers the good in CA.

WHY?

The "Why" is the issue.
Thanks for avoiding the question. Is it too challenging for you to look at things with a microscope. Rather than just bark WHY WHY WHY, why don't we look.

I tried to analyze the 254 companies that left, according to blogger Joe Vranich's Company Strategic Location Solutions. HOWEVER, he provides no methodology, no results, and no lists of the businesses that have left the state. One must ask, where did he get this list?
Joe's Irvine, CA based company can be found at this poorly made website: Spectrum Location Solutions

So it is hard to analyze the companies, because Joe has decided to "keep that private" and throw around a #. Why doesn't he calculate this for any other state??? Because it wouldn't serve HIS businesses needs.

----- Also, why is a business expanding out of state a bad thing??? A dream of most businesses is to go NATIONAL. This comes from the success that started in the home state. HOME DEPOT, TARGET, WALMART, GM, Ford, Microsoft, Chase Bank, etc....

According to the Register, a company would be on Mr. Vranich's list, like In-n-Out, Google, or CKE's Carl's Jr. because they added a single job out of state. Vranich doesn't look at if they are also adding jobs in California (Google hiring 2,000+ workers in Mountain View, Irvine, and Venice; In-n-Out adding locations in CA, NV, AZ, TX; Carl's Jr. renovating and adding locations in CA and Midwest). Once you reach the majority of your target market in your home state, YOU EXPAND TO MAKE MORE MONEY. That is business.

PER JOE VRANICH's METHOD, TEXAS Fortune 500 COMPANIES EXPANDING IN CALIFORNIA:
1.) Exxon Mobil is hiring engineers at its Torrance, CA offices
2.) AT&T has 200 job openings in California, the same number as in Texas
3.) Dell has 298 job openings in California
4.) Tesoro is hiring at its Long Beach operations site
5.) American Airlines is shifting pilots and flight attendants to its LAX ops base as they commit to international growth and new 3 class service on the incoming A321 between LAX and JFK.
6.) Waste Management is hiring to fulfill its commitment to Southern California cities in contracts with
7.) USAA is adding Wealth Manager to its San Francisco and Los Angeles offices.
8.) Baker Hughes has 45 job openings in California
9.) Dean Foods has 63 job openings in California
10.) Whole Foods is expanding rapidly into California. Its growth here is highest of any state currently.

I haven't even gone through 25% of Texas' Fortune 500. Most are adding some jobs in California, so technically Mr. Vranich should have calculated Dell as "expanding in CA" while Google expands around the world.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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3,359,775 Companies in California
Which shows how little 250 is especially when you have several thousand new ones popping up as well as a couple of hundred relocating here. There just isn't any big lose of businesses.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:45 PM
 
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Thanks for avoiding the question. Is it too challenging for you to look at things with a microscope. Rather than just bark WHY WHY WHY, why don't we look.

I tried to analyze the 254 companies that left, according to blogger Joe Vranich's Company Strategic Location Solutions. HOWEVER, he provides no methodology, no results, and no lists of the businesses that have left the state. One must ask, where did he get this list?
Joe's Irvine, CA based company can be found at this poorly made website: Spectrum Location Solutions

So it is hard to analyze the companies, because Joe has decided to "keep that private" and throw around a #. Why doesn't he calculate this for any other state??? Because it wouldn't serve HIS businesses needs.

----- Also, why is a business expanding out of state a bad thing??? A dream of most businesses is to go NATIONAL. This comes from the success that started in the home state. HOME DEPOT, TARGET, WALMART, GM, Ford, Microsoft, Chase Bank, etc....

According to the Register, a company would be on Mr. Vranich's list, like In-n-Out, Google, or CKE's Carl's Jr. because they added a single job out of state. Vranich doesn't look at if they are also adding jobs in California (Google hiring 2,000+ workers in Mountain View, Irvine, and Venice; In-n-Out adding locations in CA, NV, AZ, TX; Carl's Jr. renovating and adding locations in CA and Midwest). Once you reach the majority of your target market in your home state, YOU EXPAND TO MAKE MORE MONEY. That is business.

PER JOE VRANICH's METHOD, TEXAS Fortune 500 COMPANIES EXPANDING IN CALIFORNIA:
1.) Exxon Mobil is hiring engineers at its Torrance, CA offices
2.) AT&T has 200 job openings in California, the same number as in Texas
3.) Dell has 298 job openings in California
4.) Tesoro is hiring at its Long Beach operations site
5.) American Airlines is shifting pilots and flight attendants to its LAX ops base as they commit to international growth and new 3 class service on the incoming A321 between LAX and JFK.
6.) Waste Management is hiring to fulfill its commitment to Southern California cities in contracts with
7.) USAA is adding Wealth Manager to its San Francisco and Los Angeles offices.
8.) Baker Hughes has 45 job openings in California
9.) Dean Foods has 63 job openings in California
10.) Whole Foods is expanding rapidly into California. Its growth here is highest of any state currently.

I haven't even gone through 25% of Texas' Fortune 500. Most are adding some jobs in California, so technically Mr. Vranich should have calculated Dell as "expanding in CA" while Google expands around the world.
Good points.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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In the one month period of July 2012, 122,700 jobs were lost in California.

California has yet to recover 1,069,200 jobs before it returns to the employment level at the start of the Great Recession in December 2007.

That is not taking into consideration the increase in population.

California since November 2008 has increased by 7.8 million More People, but 3.1 Million Fewer Jobs!
As the new people are not included in the unemployment statistics, the over 10% unemployment rate does not count the people that have come into the state wanting to work but no jobs. The new jobs being created are not enough to take care of the unemployed, or supply jobs to the new arrivals. The total of unemployed plus underemployed is over 30%, and in addition if the new arrivals wanting to fill jobs were counted in, it would be much higher.

Current Employment Rate | UnemploymentData.com

The majority of new jobs being created are low wage jobs, and mid range jobs have been the big losers in this recovery.

CA 2nd best state in March in new jobs created -- or is it? - Richard Rider - Open Salon

Is hiring for real. In June Cisco was advertising for people.

Who was hiring in Silicon Valley in June? Cisco, for one - Silicon Valley / San Jose Business Journal

California Employment Development Department found Cisco among the companies placing the most job ads (1,469) in June. In July, it announced plans to cut 1,300 jobs.

Though not limited to the tech market, temporary help services was among the healthiest sectors, up 14.1 percent to 2,539,600 positions, a growing trend as economic uncertainty makes employers wary of committing to full-time hires.

Jobs Report Tells a Better Story for the Tech Sector | Dice Blog Network

In other words, the better jobs are often turning to only temporary filling positions, not permanent jobs.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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You appear to think this is a problem, why?
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