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Old 09-10-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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If you actually read this link, it's nonsense. First of all, it's two years old. It's not a list of companies leaving California. Well, a few of them are. But mostly not. Most of them never had their headquarters in California in the first place. Some of them are reducing some of their California operations. Some of them aren't changing their California operations at all; they are merely expanding elsewhere.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Looking at the break down 90% of the difference is a drop in retail sales where people are paying sales taxes. That's an extremely volatile sector with lots of large swings so one month does not mean anything.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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If you actually read this link, it's nonsense. First of all, it's two years old. It's not a list of companies leaving California. Well, a few of them are. But mostly not. Most of them never had their headquarters in California in the first place. Some of them are reducing some of their California operations. Some of them aren't changing their California operations at all; they are merely expanding elsewhere.
I still have to laugh at these partisan hacks who link to garbage sites like BreitBart.com because it's obvious you never get actual factual information from such partisan political chop shops. Instead you get half truths and lots of fake political spin.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:24 PM
 
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Under normal times in the past, they would not have expanded elsewhere. They would have expanded in California. They are putting their new operations somewhere else, while reducing or just holding in California. As an earlier poster said about his company. They registered in another state as a huge number do with better and friendlier laws and regulations to save money. They have frozen what has happened in California, and then have built 2 new factories in another state due to the cost of doing business, tax drains, and regulatory hell that California puts them through. California needs to increase the number of factories and jobs, instead of letting them slip off to other states.

The start of this thread was about how many jobs California had created, while at the same time they had lost more jobs than they created that month, giving them a huge negative jobs number.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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Under normal times in the past, they would not have expanded elsewhere. They would have expanded in California. They are putting their new operations somewhere else, while reducing or just holding in California. As an earlier poster said about his company. They registered in another state as a huge number do with better and friendlier laws and regulations to save money. They have frozen what has happened in California, and then have built 2 new factories in another state due to the cost of doing business, tax drains, and regulatory hell that California puts them through. California needs to increase the number of factories and jobs, instead of letting them slip off to other states.

The start of this thread was about how many jobs California had created, while at the same time they had lost more jobs than they created that month, giving them a huge negative jobs number.

Getting worse in one of the major areas.

Major East Coast ports posted solid year-over-year increases in containerized imports in July while most West Coast ports declined.


Countdown to Crisis in ILA Ports
Joseph Bonney, Senior Editor | Sep 10, 2012 4:00AM GMT
The Journal of Commerce Magazine - News Story
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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If you actually read this link, it's nonsense. First of all, it's two years old. It's not a list of companies leaving California. Well, a few of them are. But mostly not. Most of them never had their headquarters in California in the first place. Some of them are reducing some of their California operations. Some of them aren't changing their California operations at all; they are merely expanding elsewhere.
So what if the link is 2 years old. Sorry it did not make sense to you....how did the other links work for you?
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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I still have to laugh at these partisan hacks who link to garbage sites like BreitBart.com because it's obvious you never get actual factual information from such partisan political chop shops. Instead you get half truths and lots of fake political spin.
Yep just like the link you provided when you started this thread

Yep CA BESTS TX

James Nash and Darrell Preston, Bloomberg
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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State to State Comparison

I doubt the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics is a partisan chop shop
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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Under normal times in the past, they would not have expanded elsewhere. They would have expanded in California. They are putting their new operations somewhere else, while reducing or just holding in California. As an earlier poster said about his company. They registered in another state as a huge number do with better and friendlier laws and regulations to save money. They have frozen what has happened in California, and then have built 2 new factories in another state due to the cost of doing business, tax drains, and regulatory hell that California puts them through. California needs to increase the number of factories and jobs, instead of letting them slip off to other states.

The start of this thread was about how many jobs California had created, while at the same time they had lost more jobs than they created that month, giving them a huge negative jobs number.
They don't get it oldtrader...hence the reason the state has been doing as poorly as it is and will continue on this path.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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Getting worse in one of the major areas.

Major East Coast ports posted solid year-over-year increases in containerized imports in July while most West Coast ports declined.


Countdown to Crisis in ILA Ports
Joseph Bonney, Senior Editor | Sep 10, 2012 4:00AM GMT
The Journal of Commerce Magazine - News Story
More Dortmunder, less Tsingtao
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