When/How did California become a liberal democratic state? (cinema, school)

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Shame to have such a negative viewpoint, I know lots of moral upright ethical young people, it happens with good parenting.

Not sure how many kids you have raised to adulthood, or if you did, how they turned out, but mine are all doing very well, ethically.

Now, daughter #2 tilted toward the dark side for a year, she sold her Jeep and bought a car, but, she learned her lesson and just sold her car and bought a truck. Hers is the one in the middle, between her mothers and mine, good to have her back on the straight and narrow!

Yes many turn out well, but many do not in-spite of the best parenting. MY daughter did and is doing well. However I know of others with the best parents imaginable who still went bad. No one thing contributes to it and no one thing makes it successful. This world is full of dangerous activities that 100 years ago simply were not seen, let alone even heard of, by the vast majority of kids.

Then of course we have a huge number of just plain lousy parents and then a huge number who want to be but either do not have a clue or are so stressed just providing sustenance and covering they can't do more, and the kids get hurt. Then we have divorced and single family (never married) situations that just make it worse.

I am glad you kids turned out OK, tell your daughter to keep on truckin. Now you get to worry about the grand kids.

[.highnlite]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Yes many turn out well, but many do not in-spite of the best parenting. MY daughter did and is doing well. However I know of others with the best parents imaginable who still went bad. No one thing contributes to it and no one thing makes it successful. This world is full of dangerous activities that 100 years ago simply were not seen, let alone even heard of, by the vast majority of kids.

Then of course we have a huge number of just plain lousy parents and then a huge number who want to be but either do not have a clue or are so stressed just providing sustenance and covering they can't do more, and the kids get hurt. Then we have divorced and single family (never married) situations that just make it worse.

I am glad you kids turned out OK, tell your daughter to keep on truckin. Now you get to worry about the grand kids.

Remember, bad stuff has always been present, the nature of it may vary, but it has always been part of humankind.

I have known a heck of a lot of kids, and families, and the child from good parenting that goes bad is pretty darned rare. There are families that to the outside world present a facade that differs from inside the home.

Your second paragraph is summed up by; "bad parenting", there can be no excuses, the most important job a parent has, is either done well, or done poorly.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

The numbers are what they are...

It is important to note even against overwhelming odds... not every elected official is a member of the Democrat Party...

Well duh of course not. However, not every county is a democratic one either. However the vast majority of counties that are republican are rural. Conservatism seems to only be able to survive in isolation and even then are usually lost in history eventually. The state as a whole is a blue state , everyone knows that. The GOP in their typical fashion ignores the fac t when they lost ground anywhere. In 1984 Contra Costa County went for Reagan. Today it's a democratic stronghold. Why? The GOP disregarded the fact that they lost it which eventually led to them losing the state. Their behavior hasn't changed and as a result they are slipping farther and farther into oblivion. I'm not complaining, if anything quite the opposite.

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Well duh of course not. However, not every county is a democratic one either. However the vast majority of counties that are republican are rural. Conservatism seems to only be able to survive in isolation and even then are usually lost in history eventually. The state as a whole is a blue state , everyone knows that. The GOP in their typical fashion ignores the fac t when they lost ground anywhere. In 1984 Contra Costa County went for Reagan. Today it's a democratic stronghold. Why? The GOP disregarded the fact that they lost it which eventually led to them losing the state. Their behavior hasn't changed and as a result they are slipping farther and farther into oblivion. I'm not complaining, if anything quite the opposite.

As someone that has never been a registered Republican, Democrat or any other party affiliation... I tend to value/appreciate having more than a one party system for the diversity of ideas it brings to the table.

Candidate Romney is getting a lot of coverage over his remark about the number of people paying taxes and I find it interesting that his statement is a rallying cry for both sides

This morning, the local news station pundits were predicting this one remark has all but eliminated his chances for the White House and others were saying this one remark has energized his base...

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by expatCA

This world is full of dangerous activities that 100 years ago simply were not seen, let alone even heard of, by the vast majority of kids.

The world of 100 years ago was full of dangerous activities that simply are not seen, let alone even heard of, save for history books, by the vast majority of kids today... such as how non-whites were treated. Childhood disease and death. Unsafe food. The Spanish Influenza pandemic which resulted in ~100 million + deaths. Dying from appendicitis and infected teeth. Elementary school age kids working down in coal mines.

We survived that and we'll survive the stuff that makes you reel in horror today while grasping your crucifix. That's what humans do, we survive and adapt.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

As someone that has never been a registered Republican, Democrat or any other party affiliation... I tend to value/appreciate having more than a one party system for the diversity of ideas it brings to the table.

Candidate Romney is getting a lot of coverage over his remark about the number of people paying taxes and I find it interesting that his statement is a rallying cry for both sides

This morning, the local news station pundits were predicting this one remark has all but eliminated his chances for the White House and others were saying this one remark has energized his base...

I agree that one party, even if it's the one I may more in common with, shouldn't dominate. However I don't think today's GOP which is dominated with southern politicians and ideas and is completely out of touch with California ia a good alternative. We do need someone, maybe two or three someone elses to keep the deems in check. Today's GOP again isn't it for this state.

As far as the Romney remark is concerned, I think what you post is correct on both accounts. He likely did lose a lot of support but precisely because he energized biz base. That base on the GOP side doesn't represent a whole lot of people these days. You can no longer win an election with just the angry white male vote.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

The world of 100 years ago was full of dangerous activities that simply are not seen, let alone even heard of, save for history books, by the vast majority of kids today... such as how non-whites were treated. Childhood disease and death. Unsafe food. The Spanish Influenza pandemic which resulted in ~100 million + deaths. Dying from appendicitis and infected teeth. Elementary school age kids working down in coal mines.

We survived that and we'll survive the stuff that makes you reel in horror today while grasping your crucifix. That's what humans do, we survive and adapt.

Well said Tucky, well said

[.highnlite]

Consider such family doings as incest and child abuse, 100 years ago both were very common and completely unreported. Look at the treatment of the euro immigrants, tenements, child labor, child prostitution.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

The world of 100 years ago was full of dangerous activities that simply are not seen, let alone even heard of, save for history books, by the vast majority of kids today... such as how non-whites were treated. Childhood disease and death. Unsafe food. The Spanish Influenza pandemic which resulted in ~100 million + deaths. Dying from appendicitis and infected teeth. Elementary school age kids working down in coal mines.

We survived that and we'll survive the stuff that makes you reel in horror today while grasping your crucifix. That's what humans do, we survive and adapt.

And you should know. You were there!

[Fontucky]

Following my big brother Curmie around pestering him.