Prop 30 poll (house, public school, university)

[1AngryTaxPayer]

I've got some sneaking suspicion about some stuff going on at one of my kid's schools. She brought home some "homework". They were voting as a class and the assignment was to read the props and vote on them. The other night she tells us the Teacher asked her if we did her votes for her and she answered no, but they told me the negatives and positives of what they thought about them. (which we did). BTW wife is a die hard Dem and I'm independent.

So, she tells us last night they went over them with the Teacher and then the Teacher added her comments ak., slants to each "homework" before grading them and filing them away. She remembered one of them (30) and it was very slanted in both the comments and what the "lectures" have been all days during the assignment. How come this piece of "homework" didn't come home after grading like all the other papers did.

We are going to have to have a sit down with the Teacher. I'm definitely not sitting by idle if my kids straight A's get dumped because of this biased Teacher pushing these props to the kids.

[user_id]

If anything is going to save California in the future...its education. The education system has already been cut again and again, it needs more money. A modest tax increase that supports the education system should be obvious, so naturally people that will hardly pay anything more are out their fighting it. Puppetry....

Child penalty in the tax code? Silly....the future of the nation rests on the nations children.

[tetka_grunya]

I agree that education should help our country. Unfortunately,the current education system with it's focus on the least progressing students, can't produce a good results. And it is not because of a lack of money, but because the system itself. We shouldn't give more money to the system that doesn't give a chance to kids, who want to learn, to get a great education that is competitive with other countries in this global world: Finland, Germany, etc. We should change the system first.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by tetka_grunya

We shouldn't give more money to the system that doesn't give a chance to kids, who want to learn, to get a great education that is competitive with other countries in this global world: Finland, Germany, etc. We should change the system first.

Except that changing the system requires money, it won't happen automatically. People will have to work at it, people will have to think about it, studies will have to be conducted, etc.....this all requires money.

[Leonard64]

Originally Posted by user_id

If anything is going to save California in the future...its education. The education system has already been cut again and again, it needs more money. A modest tax increase that supports the education system should be obvious, so naturally people that will hardly pay anything more are out their fighting it. Puppetry....

Child penalty in the tax code? Silly....the future of the nation rests on the nations children.

Money isn't the problem. How it is spent is, what is taught is, and how many non essential subjects (politically correct Social indoctrination) there are and how much influence the Union exerts on subject matter and how much of actual US history is removed to favor current ideology, all contribute to the poor quality of education in public schools.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by Leonard64

Money isn't the problem. How it is spent is, what is taught is, and how many non essential subjects

And, as I said before, the school system isn't going to restructure itself. Restructuring costs money, without sufficient capital the school system won't be able to do much beyond maintaining the status qua.

[jimhcom]

Originally Posted by user_id

And, as I said before, the school system isn't going to restructure itself. Restructuring costs money, without sufficient capital the school system won't be able to do much beyond maintaining the status qua.

You could fill a fleet of tanker ships with money and send it to Sacramento and the thieves would just steal it all and ask for more.
The only way to reform government that is addicted to fiscal irresponsibility is to impose austerity. Perhaps they will be able to find some of the 50% of the educational budget that never makes it to the classroom.

[tetka_grunya]

Originally Posted by user_id

Except that changing the system requires money, it won't happen automatically. People will have to work at it, people will have to think about it, studies will have to be conducted, etc.....this all requires money.

we already have a world experience how to teach future great problem solving, doctors, engineers...

do not need to spend another hundreds millions on researches...

[sunshine7793]

I say let it pass! California needs an Obama experience. Voters across the nation have seen what a mess these radical liberal ideas produce. Look at what Obama has done to our national economy. If Prop 30 passes money and talent will leave the state like never before. An economic malaise will settle on CA even worse than what we have now.

Maybe a disaster like Prop 30 will wake up the voters. Maybe after some Obama type of pain for a few years they will be ready for a change. One can only hope.

[jimhcom]

New California Taxes Pay for Pensions, Not Schools - Bloomberg

According to this article by Bloomberg, 100% of the tax increase will go to teacher’s pensions.
So much for the "educate the poor kids" argument.