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Old 10-09-2007, 01:59 PM
 
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Hey Guys,

So we are two 21 year old guys looking to move to the California area from the UK and could really do with some quite in depth advice on the best places to live and work. We are wanting to move for 6 months plus, and want to find somewhere relatively cheap to live, fun and with the opportunity to work within Information Technology (IT). We also love warm weather

We want to move over in the summer of 08 but need as much encouraging and informative advice as possible before we commit to anything.

Once again the place must be quite warm, safe, cheap enough to live, have lots of opportunities for work and not to mention different from the UK. Any advice and information would be much appreciated and if anyone has any info on how much money we would need to start us off and the best accommodation that would be awesome.

Thanks for your time and if you need any more of our ideas please ask.

Kruso and Tod.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Have you figured out where you will be working?
What is your housing budget?
I would think you will buy a car or two when you get here, right?
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:24 PM
 
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I drive but the as far as thoughts on getting a car, I've not really thought about that. I was thinking of using public transport for a while really.

We haven't got any jobs lined up yet as we were wondering on the best places to live, then we would search, apply and hopefully but successful on the job front.

We dont want to purchase, we want to rent and we are unsure of the like average costs of things. If we knew more, and once we do, we can then budget on how much money we will need to have saved for when we come. Obviously working will allow us to get some funds whilst we are over there.

Thanks for the support.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I drive but the as far as thoughts on getting a car, I've not really thought about that. I was thinking of using public transport for a while really.

We haven't got any jobs lined up yet as we were wondering on the best places to live, then we would search, apply and hopefully but successful on the job front.

We dont want to purchase, we want to rent and we are unsure of the like average costs of things. If we knew more, and once we do, we can then budget on how much money we will need to have saved for when we come. Obviously working will allow us to get some funds whilst we are over there.

Thanks for the support.
Sounds like you need to find where the jobs are then find a place to live. Unless you can work from home - a lot of people do.
Most likely you will need a vehicle - especially if you will be sightseeing...either that or do the public transport thing and when needed rent a car...
If you will be in California in Summer 2008 you will most likely find the coastal areas to be very comfortable (sometimes foggy but not cool) and most of the inland areas (meaning 5 -20 miles from the shore) to be pretty warm if not hot.

You have a lot more research to do.
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:30 PM
 
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Ok let's see if I can help you out a little.

As far as you wanting to get a job here when you arrive - is that even possible without the proper visas? You may want to check into this as I am no expert. However, my husband (from the Netherlands) could not even attempt to get a job until he got his permanent residency (different from a greencard). Plus, trying to find a company to hire you would be difficult as they have to sponsor you and basically show the U.S. government that you are needed because U.S. residents are not able to do the job. (Plus, to sponsor someone a company has to shell out lots of money.) But, maybe there is something I am not aware of.

The largest IT sector in CA is in the bay area/Silicon Valley - this is the San Jose area. This place has warm weather and I would say relatively inexpensive. Now, the word "relatively" is a big word here. CALIFORNIA IS NOT CHEAP! For the most part, you have to go to crappy cities that no one really wants to live in to obtain affordable living. Sacramento (the capitol) has some decent areas, can be affordable, has decent public transportation, is hot (not warm) during the summer, and has public transportation. But don't kid yourself - the public transportation in California is a joke compared to Europe's.

The best place for public transportation (which can still be stinky) is San Francisco, but this city is EXPENSIVE (trust me, I live here). It does offer jobs in IT, but is extremely competitive. Plus, the summer is not so great. Mark Twain once said "the coldest winter I ever spent was the summer in San Francisco." (Or something to that effect.) SF has Indian Summers which means it is nice in August and October, but not every day.

You can also look into Oakland. It is right south of San Francisco and can be much cheaper. But a lot of the city is ugly and parts are really unsafe. Maybe someone else can give you more info. on this.

Southern CA is beautiful (I grew up in San Diego) but dang expensive and public transportation is not very good as the cities are really spread out so most people have cars.

Good luck!
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:53 PM
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Location: Oakland
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Oakland is east from SF, across the bay. Directly south of SF is Daly City.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:10 AM
 
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Quite warm by UK standards is different than California standards .... I guess the southern coastal cities of LA and San Diego would seem warm enough to you. Go inland a bit in those cities and you will find less expensive places to live, about the same prices as London from what I've heard but with weather more like Spain, and plenty of fun things for young people to do. The bus and trolley systems are good enough to get around.
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:27 AM
 
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Quite warm by UK standards is different than California standards .... I guess the southern coastal cities of LA and San Diego would seem warm enough to you. Go inland a bit in those cities and you will find less expensive places to live, about the same prices as London from what I've heard but with weather more like Spain, and plenty of fun things for young people to do. The bus and trolley systems are good enough to get around.
Yeah I'm pretty sure there will be a difference in opinions on what "warm" actually is. We live in the north of England and we only get warm weather in the summer, and that still is vary rare. Infact this year I dont think we had a weeks worth of warm weather.

So you are suggesting San Diego and LA as some of the better places for us to look into but seek areas further inland. Thanks for the response. Appreciated. If you can think of any more advice that would be great.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:53 PM
 
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Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:02 PM
 
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Coming from England, you'll probably consider anything inland in SoCal to be HOT. During the summer, it might be 80F on the coast, 90F 10 miles inland, and 100F or more 20+ miles inland. It all depends on the exact topography of the area but the temperature gradient as you leave the coast can be quite steep.
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