California ranks near top of Death Spiral States (Montclair: 2013, insurance)

[BayAreaHillbilly]

To be fair we are now among the best of the worst due to the current Web X.0 bubble, and, cash buyers snapping up prime real estate. Still, we are part of Rust Belt II.

[ralphkramden]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

That ratio has remained unchanged for many, many years. While correct, given California's population, that's all whole bunch of public employees.

As my favorite passenger Alice often mutters: "curiouser and curiouser". What nthe hell does that mean: ", that's all whole bunch of public employees."? It's the third lowest ratio in the country. Don't matter ifit's a bunch. The OP guy was saying California's bloated with too many state employees. Well, if so, 47 other states are worse. Hell, my NY state is waaaay worse, and we're getting by. California has top population and top economy and low public employees.

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[Tex?Il?]

Originally Posted by ralphkramden

As my favorite passenger Alice often mutters: "curiouser and curiouser". What nthe hell does that mean: ", that's all whole bunch of public employees."? It's the third lowest ratio in the country. Don't matter ifit's a bunch. The OP guy was saying California's bloated with too many state employees. Well, if so, 47 other states are worse. Hell, my NY state is waaaay worse, and we're getting by. California has top population and top economy and low public employees.

10 States Where An Absurd Percentage Of The Population Works For The Government
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Great post. Really great.

I lived in Laramie, WY for two years. Ground zero, for supposedly the rugged individualism of the anti-government American frontier.

I had multiple classmates, that said: "Yeah, I'll just get a job with the BLM (Bureau of Land Management) after I graduate. I have connections."

Rugged individualism in those states listed are about as real as the breasts on Rodeo Dr. in Beverly Hills.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by ralphkramden

As my favorite passenger Alice often mutters: "curiouser and curiouser". What nthe hell does that mean: ", that's all whole bunch of public employees."? It's the third lowest ratio in the country. Don't matter ifit's a bunch. The OP guy was saying California's bloated with too many state employees. Well, if so, 47 other states are worse. Hell, my NY state is waaaay worse, and we're getting by. California has top population and top economy and low public employees.

10 States Where An Absurd Percentage Of The Population Works For The Government
Read more: 10 States Where An Absurd Percentage Of The Population Works For The Government - Business Insider
10 States Where An Absurd Percentage Of The Population Works For The Government - Business Insider

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Let me guess. You went down the rabbit hole head first!

[EdJS]

Originally Posted by jimhcom

DEATH SPIRAL STATES « The Burning Platform

This article states how the combination of people on public dole, and government employees ,also on public dole, now outnumber people who actually produce and pay the bills.
This is an unsustainable death spiral, with the only question remaining being how long can this situation continue before the state financially implodes.

It's funny how this state has been going down the drain for the entire 35 years that I've been living here yet at the same time my actual life for the last 35 years has been getting better and better.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by EdJS

It's funny how this state has been going down the drain for the entire 35 years that I've been living here yet at the same time my actual life for the last 35 years has been getting better and better.

I posted something similar but a shorter time span. The California bashers have become little more than entertainment for me although it is cruel to laugh at those who can't help....er....nevermind.

[killer2021]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

To be fair we are now among the best of the worst due to the current Web X.0 bubble, and, cash buyers snapping up prime real estate. Still, we are part of Rust Belt II.

The entire US is a rust belt. Highest trade deficit in the world. We used to be the top producer in the world, now we are the top consumer in the world and the worst part is our wealth is leaving this country through the trade deficit.

[tijlover]

When Reagan became Governor way back in 1964, he was facing 2 million on welfare, people flocking to CA for the lax welfare rules, and the state was flirting with a financial disaster. Nearly 40 years later, the beat goes on!!!

Talk about a very, very, very slow death spiral!!!

[jimhcom]

Originally Posted by ralphkramden

As my favorite passenger Alice often mutters: "curiouser and curiouser". What nthe hell does that mean: ", that's all whole bunch of public employees."? It's the third lowest ratio in the country. Don't matter ifit's a bunch. The OP guy was saying California's bloated with too many state employees. Well, if so, 47 other states are worse. Hell, my NY state is waaaay worse, and we're getting by. California has top population and top economy and low public employees.

10 States Where An Absurd Percentage Of The Population Works For The Government
Read more: 10 States Where An Absurd Percentage Of The Population Works For The Government - Business Insider
10 States Where An Absurd Percentage Of The Population Works For The Government - Business Insider

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Wrong, the OP (me) said the combination of State employees combined with entitlement recipients is the 3rd highest in the nation. Try to pay attention and not mis-quote people.
By the way I value your opinion that California is doing so well and I sincerely hope you can convince others to share your opinion, at least long enough for me to be able to unload my properties at a decent price before leaving this wonderful place in my rear view mirror.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by jimhcom

The federal pot is only one statistic

...that shows how much we rely on other states. And it turns out we dont rely on any other state for anything and that any expenditures we have here, are because we have a desire to pay for them, or incur debt in order to finance them. California is totally self reliant.