I shouldn't bother but... (Fortuna: real estate, neighborhood, income)

[OGTSO]

Originally Posted by Senno

I second this. I've paid a few claims that included gym memberships for life so the injured worker could swim or do gentler exercises in the pool. It's a lot easier on the ol bod.

The constant pain, even if relatively manageable is quite wearing I'm told.

Hope your wife gets some improvement OGTSO.

Thanks Senno!
The cumulative effect of constant pain is surprising. She handles it the best she can.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Thank you. Keepin' my fingers crossed.

As are we.

[oldtrader]

An interesting article, based on Census Data.

Californians Moving: Census Survey Shows Californians Moving To Texas, Arizona, Washington, Nevada And Other States

[Senno]

Interesting article. The movement is the lowest rate recorded since the census started. Not so great an exodus really.

And we do seem to be swapping with Texas 2 to 1 about, hehe.

The Most Common State-to-State Moves
According to the 2010 American Community Survey, 45.3 million people lived in a different house within the United States one year earlier. Of these movers, 6.7 million lived in a different state. The most common state-to-state moves in 2010 were:

• California to Texas (68,959 movers)
• New York to Florida (55,011)
• Florida to Georgia (49,901)
• California to Arizona (47,164)
• New Jersey to Pennsylvania (42,456)
• New York to New Jersey (41,374)
• California to Washington (39,468)
• Texas to California (36,582)
• Georgia to Florida (35,615)
• California to Nevada (35,472)

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Senno

Interesting article. The movement is the lowest rate recorded since the census started. Not so great an exodus really.

And we do seem to be swapping with Texas 2 to 1 about, hehe.

Interesting that more people are moving to Georgia from Florida than the opposite, too. I notice people moving to Nevada from California but not many moving back.

Thanks. Not only interesting, it's a current article. Too many links to old articles sometimes. Keep it current.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by oldtrader

An interesting article, based on Census Data.

Californians Moving: Census Survey Shows Californians Moving To Texas, Arizona, Washington, Nevada And Other States

Good for California. Too bad for Arizona, Washington, Nevada etc.
Can't happen fast enough.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Good for California. Too bad for Arizona, Washington, Nevada etc.
Can't happen fast enough.

Why is it too bad for the other states? Don't the Californians bring their income with them? Isn't that good for the other states' economy? Seems like you don't like Californians.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

Why is it too bad for the other states? Don't the Californians bring their income with them? Isn't that good for the other states' economy? Seems like you don't like Californians.

Good for California to empty out. Too bad for the others -- they have to fill up -- with anybody. Income doesn't create space between bodies. Seems like just the opposite. I am a Californian, since 1966.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Good for California to empty out. Too bad for the others -- they have to fill up -- with anybody. Income doesn't create space between bodies. Seems like just the opposite. I am a Californian, since 1966.

Regarding that comment. California isn't going to empty out. It's just going to be replaced with people who won't or can't contribute to the tax revenue.

I got you beat, though. I've been in California since 1952

[oldtrader]

COMMENT 1
Good for California to empty out. Too bad for the others -- they have to fill up -- with anybody. Income doesn't create space between bodies. Seems like just the opposite.

COMMENT 2
Regarding that comment. California isn't going to empty out. It's just going to be replaced with people who won't or can't contribute to the tax revenue.

I agree with comment 2. What Comment #1 is not looking at, and Comment #2 is looking at, is that the ones that are leaving the state are the productive, earning money and paying taxes population. What is replacing them, is the people that are taking much lower jobs if they can find one (REMEMBER HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT), and are the ones that are causing California to have the highest poverty rate in the nation where nearly 25% of the population is living in poverty, and is causing California to be using up 1/3rd of all poverty funds in the nation which is far more than their share of the poverty funds in the nation.

The combination of falling tax receipts due to less higher and middle income people, and the poverty rolls growing, is why tax receipts are falling in California which contributes to it's huge budget deficit. As California has just proven, their leaders solutions is to raise the taxes on the people in the state who are the earners in the state. The more middle income and rich people leaving the state, the more they will have to raise the taxes on the earners to support the ones that are receiving, etc.

#Comment 1--Keep asking for more people to flee the state, and in effect beg the legislature and governor to raise your taxes in return which will be their only real option. Then the round robin effect begins again, as raising taxes will drive more companies and people from the state that are escaping paying taxes, which will get your taxes raised again.