Stockton Metro Area officially merged into the SF Bay Area (Los Angeles: high crime, DMV)

[Senno]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

This pretty much explains why...

I know.

And I have considered Livermore to be Bay Area as Nekkidfish moved there and she wants to go to a nude beach, which is pretty cool. And I took that into consideration as well. But not points east.

May god have mercy on the poor souls in Stockton that commute to the Bay Area.

[slo1318]

Wow, I didn't think it would happen this soon.

[Chimérique]

I wonder what is the commute percentage into the Sacramento Metro from San Joaquin County?

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

I wonder what is the commute percentage into the Sacramento Metro from San Joaquin County?

Around 4%

Stockton-Sacramento: 8,620
San Joaquin to Sacramento 7,805
San Joaquin to Yolo 426
San Joaquin to Placer 219
San Joaquin to El Dorado 170

Stockton-Bay Area: 45,750
San Joaquin to Alameda 26,121
San Joaquin to Santa Clara 7,954
San Joaquin to Contra Costa 5,377
San Joaquin to San Francisco 2,582
San Joaquin to San Mateo 1,920
San Joaquin to Solano 1,041
San Joaquin to Marin 381
San Joaquin to Sonoma 197
San Joaquin to Napa 177

[BayAreaHillbilly]

I didn't know that the DC CSA had passed us up. That puts Philly even further down. I think we passed Philly back in the 80s or early 90s.

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

I didn't know that the DC CSA had passed us up. That puts Philly even further down. I think we passed Philly back in the 80s or early 90s.

The SF Bay area CSA or CMSA as it was, was #4 for a long time until DC combined with Baltimore and Bostons got enlarged as well.

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Around 4%

Stockton-Sacramento: 8,620
San Joaquin to Sacramento 7,805
San Joaquin to Yolo 426
San Joaquin to Placer 219
San Joaquin to El Dorado 170

Stockton-Bay Area: 45,750
San Joaquin to Alameda 26,121
San Joaquin to Santa Clara 7,954
San Joaquin to Contra Costa 5,377
San Joaquin to San Francisco 2,582
San Joaquin to San Mateo 1,920
San Joaquin to Solano 1,041
San Joaquin to Marin 381
San Joaquin to Sonoma 197
San Joaquin to Napa 177

Thanks! Curious what is your source?

There are bordering areas between the Sacto Metro and the Bay Area Metro such as Vacaville, Fairfield, Napa, and Vallejo that are within the Bay Area Metro in most stats, but that always have had a Sacramento connection. I'm wondering if the commuter numbers reflect that as well. I would think Vacaville would have the largest commuter percentage to Sac over the other cities mentioned.

[Chimérique]

The commuter percentages for Stockton to the Bay Area would help explain why Stockton thinks of itself as a "Bay Area Town". Regardless of the commuter percentages Stockton is or "was" a Central Valley town in heart and soul and I mean that in a good way before the high crime rates and unemployment issues.

Stockton always has been part of the Sacramento Media Market (#19 in the country last time I looked) and I think Sacramento does a better job on reporting on the real Stockton. The Sacramento media has a more balanced view on Stockton because it thinks of it as one of it's own; whereas, the Bay Area media just thinks of Stockton has that horrible Central Valley exurb and focuses all its attention on the negative.

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

The commuter percentages for Stockton to the Bay Area would help explain why Stockton thinks of itself as a "Bay Area Town". Regardless of the commuter percentages Stockton is or "was" a Central Valley town in heart and soul and I mean that in a good way before the high crime rates and unemployment issues.

Stockton always has been part of the Sacramento Media Market (#19 in the country last time I looked) and I think Sacramento does a better job on reporting on the real Stockton. The Sacramento media has a more balanced view on Stockton because it thinks of it as one of it's own; whereas, the Bay Area media just thinks of Stockton has that horrible Central Valley exurb and focuses all its attention on the negative.

I agree with this. I think the difference is that valley cities don't cross employ as much, but the bay area is so expensive that the valley cities have become a natural spillover area.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

I didn't know that the DC CSA had passed us up. That puts Philly even further down. I think we passed Philly back in the 80s or early 90s.

We passed Philly in the 1980s.

DC passed us in 2001 when they merged with Baltimore.

Boston passed us in 2003 when they merged with Providence.

Now in 2013 the Bay Area has overtaken Boston again.

Chicago, DC and the Bay Area are now all on their way to 10 million.

If current growth is consistent with 2011 growth rates(latest year available), then the Bay Area has about 8.475 million in 2013 and will have 9.5 million in ten years.