03-27-2013, 09:01 PM
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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No wonder Californians got such bad reps in Hawaii Islands and they try to kill them.
This sentence apparently says Californians try to kill either their reps in Hawaii, or the islands themselves, not really sure which, or where the structure, Hawaii Islands came from. For most people it is just Hawaii or the Hawaiian Islands, I think.
03-27-2013, 09:04 PM
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American Samoa saw diabetes and obesity appear almost out of nowhere back during the Kennedy Admin., when the US protectorates in the Pacific were included in federal food give-aways for the poor. Suddenly canned goods started to arrive, and people's diets went all haywire. Use to be fish-based. Became canned pork-based, SPAM, etc.
My daughter is heading off to Fiji to document a curious local habit, the up country farmers grow their crops, take them to Suva to sell, and with the proceeds buy the afore mentioned junk foods. Which is what they prefer to eat.
03-27-2013, 09:08 PM
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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Not buying it. "Native Hawaiian", maybe, but if you if you are a resident and your tax form says you're a resident of the state of Hawaii, you're a Hawaiian. Shall we get into a debate about who's a 'real' Californian, or even American? Provincial silliness.
If only it were that simple.
Unfortunately, the term "Hawaiian" doesn't quite work as a residency marker in the way that "Californian" does because it has become "
racialized ." If one moves to Japan and becomes a resident, one doesn't necessarily become "Japanese." Similarly, one is not "Hawaiian" simply because they are a resident of the State of Hawaiʻi or happen to pay taxes there. In Hawaiʻi, we use the term "Hawaiian" to describe the descendants of the aboriginal people of the Hawaiian Islands. The reason that we do this comes from Liliʻuokalani, the last monarch of the Kingdom of Hawaiʻi who wrote in her autobiography,
Hawaii's Story by Hawaii's Queen: "When I speak... of the Hawaiian people, I refer to the children of the soil -- the native inhabitants of the Hawaiian islands and their descendants" -- an "aboriginal people" with a "birthright."
Thus, when describing people, most people in Hawaiʻi use the terms "Hawaiian", "Native Hawaiian", "kānaka maoli" ("real or true people"), and "kānaka 'ōiwi" ("bone people") interchangeably. The descendants of settlers in the Hawaiian Islands are referred to as "Hawaiʻi locals", "Hawaiʻi residents", and a few other things, but they are never considered "Hawaiians." The University of Hawaiʻi reinforces this "provincial silliness" in their "
Style Guide " which is widely used as a reference by Hawaiʻi-based academics and media.
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How about a new 'wrinkle?' Can you be an authentic Hawaiian, and be fat? Or skinny? Or not be paranoid about fashion store staff advice?
If one reserves the use of the term "Hawaiian" to refer to the "aboriginal people of Hawaiʻi and their descendants", one doesn't have to bother with using terms such as "authentic Hawaiian", "Native Hawaiian", "real Hawaiian", "true Hawaiian", etc.
Hawaiians come in all shapes in sizes and in California, many are mistakenly viewed as "Latino." Thus, I don't think that there's much "anti-Hawaiian" discrimination occurring at various "fashion centers" throughout California.
03-27-2013, 09:56 PM
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Very interesting, High, yet sad, diet wise. Is your daughter participating in a film documentary or is this a university anthropological study?
One of my nieces did the latter... she's half Filipino & lived as a kid on the Big Island, Guam, Korea, Japan, Philippines... her dad was in the military. She did a study on Filipinos in the Hawaiian Islands, in regard to acceptance since the 1965 Act allowing more Filipino immigration & the 1970s backlash they felt with that. Very interesting study & very interesting history every plot of land holds.
Good luck to your daughter.
It is an anthro project. She will do the GIS stuff. Her new love. Fiji has big problems in addition to diet, the conflict between the Polynesians and the East Indians the British imported as ag laborers.
Trouble in Paradise.
03-28-2013, 02:55 AM
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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If only it were that simple.
Unfortunately, the term "Hawaiian" doesn't quite work as a residency marker in the way that "Californian" does because it has become "
racialized ." If one moves to Japan and becomes a resident, one doesn't necessarily become "Japanese." Similarly, one is not "Hawaiian" simply because they are a resident of the State of Hawaiʻi or happen to pay taxes there. In Hawaiʻi, we use the term "Hawaiian" to describe the descendants of the aboriginal people of the Hawaiian Islands. The reason that we do this comes from Liliʻuokalani, the last monarch of the Kingdom of Hawaiʻi who wrote in her autobiography,
Hawaii's Story by Hawaii's Queen: "When I speak... of the Hawaiian people, I refer to the children of the soil -- the native inhabitants of the Hawaiian islands and their descendants" -- an "aboriginal people" with a "birthright."
Thus, when describing people, most people in Hawaiʻi use the terms "Hawaiian", "Native Hawaiian", "kānaka maoli" ("real or true people"), and "kānaka 'ōiwi" ("bone people") interchangeably. The descendants of settlers in the Hawaiian Islands are referred to as "Hawaiʻi locals", "Hawaiʻi residents", and a few other things, but they are never considered "Hawaiians." The University of Hawaiʻi reinforces this "provincial silliness" in their "
Style Guide " which is widely used as a reference by Hawaiʻi-based academics and media.
If one reserves the use of the term "Hawaiian" to refer to the "aboriginal people of Hawaiʻi and their descendants", one doesn't have to bother with using terms such as "authentic Hawaiian", "Native Hawaiian", "real Hawaiian", "true Hawaiian", etc.
Hawaiians come in all shapes in sizes and in California, many are mistakenly viewed as "Latino." Thus, I don't think that there's much "anti-Hawaiian" discrimination occurring at various "fashion centers" throughout California.
Soooo...we're talking about a relative handful of people who are
extremely sensitive about semantics. We can find those anywhere in the good ol' USA, not just Hawaii. Lots of "real or true people" everywhere...or so they like to relate. If Hawaiians want to think they're special, above and beyond all the rest who do the same thing, let them do so to their own merriment. Lei it down.
03-28-2013, 09:21 AM
Location: San Diego
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You used the term fat in your initial post.
The aforementioned 'fat sign'... we're still awaiting clarification on that one.
Different bodies? We all have different bodies, no? Beautiful bodies? Regarding
any body type... strictly eye of the beholder. Some like 'em tiny, some prefer 'em medium, some heart 'em large.
Since your husband's doing all the 'speaking', can you put him on please. I had to read this bloody paragraph 5 times to understand your English & his point.
Ironic? What's ironic is you NOW know MORE people who can't shop in stores for being too curvaceous & are given the stink eye if they're not barricaded out?
Is there some Yahoo group from where they all come? Dear lord, woman, do you know anyone who has normal everyday consumer experiences?
Most stores give 'the run around' on returns or refunds. It's to discourage returns, from thin, medium, full-bodied, young & old men & woman.
And, why are all your friends & social circle assuming their weight is the reason they can't enter shops or get refunds? Were they flashed fat signs, too... drats, that f word again.
If any of this were true, your 'friends' seem to be the ones having issues with their weight, not the other way 'round.
There's no end to the humor in this thread. Let me get your list right...
1) Not okay for Californians to commercially discriminate against large-boned people... or Hawaiians... or especially, large-boned Hawaiians. Do not give them stink eye or close up shop on them (see below).
2) But, if those pesky, scrawny Californians do, beat them to death with Prada purses... last season's markdowns... that'll teach 'em. Besides, they have 'bad reps', which is why Hawaiians 'try to kill them', justifiably so.
How do your friends do when perusing the candy or bakery isles? Stink eye? Flashed fat sign? Blimey... the f word...
Locked out of markets?
And, your husband mentioned banks. Are they in on this conspiracy, as well? Are curvaceous women being tossed from banks en masse? Deposit refusal?
I just put a lot of fat shirts up on ebay using a local zip with free shipping. Let's see em complain now
Or Nully could make a killing on his next trip over.
03-28-2013, 09:47 AM
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I just put a lot of fat shirts up on ebay using a local zip with free shipping. Let's see em complain now
Or Nully could make a killing on his next trip over.
I wrote a poem on it in free chat.
03-28-2013, 10:18 AM
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I put that video in Free Chat actually as well.
I will listen to it here though again, cause I like the song.
Aloha Hawaiians. I don't think you are all fat, or mean surfers. Nor do I mistake you for anything other than people.
03-28-2013, 10:23 AM
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That song is a big hit in the family. I am not a big fan of islands, I feel cramped on them, and I don't care for humidity, but, we were married, on the beach, on Molokai, at sunset, with a Hawaiian slack key guitarist, we were all (kids included) in Hawaiian shirts and barefoot.
I have a daughter at U of H
We vacation there, and have Hawaiian friends.
Interestingly, a fellow I know married a Hawaiian woman, and soon became much heavier. They explained that to me, a Hawaiian man shows that he is loved, but getting heavy, a Hawaiian woman shows her love for her man by stuffing him..
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Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)