Hawaiians Discriminated Against at CA Fashion Centers (San Francisco, Bakersfield: designer, ordinance)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by superstu

I don't want to be the voice of colored solidarity, but I don't think they would face the same discrimination at Ala Moana Shopping Center as the OP suggests they do in California.

But this is where the double standard comes in. The merchandise is exactly the same and that's where the complaints of discrimination should be directed to, the people who design and manfucature the clothing.

People in the stores may need some sort of sentitivity training, but usually people know what stores carry their sizes, no?

Chanel in Honolulu doesnt carry size 20 just like Chanel in SF doesnt carry size 20, ijs.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

But this is where the double standard comes in. The merchandise is exactly the same and that's where the complaints of discrimination should be directed to, the people who design and manfucature the clothing.

People in the stores may need some sort of sentitivity training, but usually people know what stores carry their sizes, no?

Chanel in Honolulu doesnt carry size 20 just like Chanel in SF doesnt carry size 20, ijs.

I think superstu's point was that the discrimination wasn't based on perceived clothing size.

Designer stores usually go up to a size 14, and the OP said her friend wasn't obese, just overweight.
Besides, how would the store owners have known if the patron was coming in for clothing or for those great Prada handbags?

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

I think superstu's point was that the discrimination wasn't based on perceived clothing size.

And I am more inclined to believe that the only discrimination was in the minds of the self described victims. Quite frankly.

Stores want your money, they dont even care if you can fit into their garments.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Stores want your money, they dont even care if you can fit into their garments.

Not true. Salespeople actively discourage sales of items they think might be too small, or purchases they think are excessive. Sounds bizarre, but it does happen. Maybe they think they're discouraging potential returned items, but they do get over-involved in people's selections at the cash register, sometimes.

[mateo45]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

Not true. Salespeople actively discourage sales of items they think might be too small, or purchases they think are excessive. Sounds bizarre, but it does happen. Maybe they think they're discouraging potential returned items, but they do get over-involved in people's selections at the cash register, sometimes.

The few times I've ever experienced that issue, have usually been at retailers (even large grocery chains) located in rural small towns, where the local culture can occasionally be a little more "nosey", plus the employees who mostly grew up around there, often just don't know any better!

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

Not true. Salespeople actively discourage sales of items they think might be too small, or purchases they think are excessive. Sounds bizarre, but it does happen. Maybe they think they're discouraging potential returned items, but they do get over-involved in people's selections at the cash register, sometimes.

I am a man who has purchased many things that are clearly not for me, but have never been interrogated about them. LOL

[Skeksil]

Originally Posted by Senno

Could it be that a salesperson who knows that they don't have anything in stock that would fit your friends is kindly referring them to an establishment that does?

Yes, because people only ever shop for themselves. Never for anyone else. Ever.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by mateo45

The few times I've ever experienced that issue, have usually been at retailers (even large grocery chains) located in rural small towns, where the local culture can occasionally be a little more "nosey", plus the employees who mostly grew up around there, often just don't know any better!

I've run into that at Nordstrom's, and some rather bizarre cashier behavior at a designer outlet. It definitely isn't limited to small towns.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Skeksil

Yes, because people only ever shop for themselves. Never for anyone else. Ever.

Good point. The shopper the OP discusses could have been looking to buy for friends or relatives.

[Tulemutt]

I remain on the edge of my seat in anticipation of where this discussion will take the advancement of plus-sized Hawaiians. Kudos to the OP for bringing this real and deeply offensive social problem to the world's attention. I never would have thought of it myselfish self.